On another note,
from the comments section @ comicbookmovie.com( Top 10 Best Fight Scenes In Marvel And DC Superhero Movies ):
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AMrSundayGirl58
@slickrickdesigns - The Martha moment is the most misinterpreted scene in recent film history. Almost everyone thinks that "they became beasties because their mothers had the same first name. But that wasn't it at all. It was about last words. Thomas Wayne's last words were Martha and he was killed trying to protect his family. If Batman had killed Superman, his last words would have been Martha and he would have been killed trying to protect his family. Effectively making him the same as the man who killed his parents. That's why he stopped. Because he refused to kill an innocent man. The fight has so much more impact if you can recognize this. I recognize this, and so many more of the plot elements that are misinterpreted, and Batman v Superman is my favorite film of the year so far.
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From the superherohype forums (Justice League: News and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 40 - Page 25 - The SuperHeroHype Forums)
Bruce_Begins
Side-Kick
Some people I've met don't think that Superman's death should have that great an effect on Batman, they say "it didn't feel earned", I think that's absurd reason, when the same people buy into logic that Coulson's death motivated Avengers to work together, even when Bruce Banner and Captain America had no earlier acquaintance with him.
Even Thor was not as close to him.
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m1ll3r
Failed experiment
Originally Posted by
Bruce_Begins
Some people I've met don't think that Superman's death should have that great an effect on Batman, they say "it didn't feel earned", I think that's absurd reason, when the same people buy into logic that Coulson's death motivated Avengers to work together, even when Bruce Banner and Captain America had no earlier acquaintance with him.
Even Thor was not as close to him.
They're both cheap, to be honest. Killing a character off to provoke a change in a character's arc is a tried and tested plot device, but only succeeds when we've seen said characters forming a believable relationship with one another. Batman forms NO relationship with Superman, other than the "Martha' thing, before his death. I'm hoping that JL does not lean on this to provide any kind of backbone to Bruce's story, because it would feel very thin. With any luck, they'll sensibly drop the poorly set up motivations from BvS, and go from as clean a slate as possible.
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BlueLanternKal
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Batman will be driven by his guilt for his hand in persecuting Superman.
Hate it or love it, the Martha scene served as an epiphianic revelation to Batman. He realized that he had become the villain of the story and in response throws the spear in disgust.
So Batman forming the JL out of guilt and taking on Superman's burden as protector of Earth isn't forced or contrivied. People just want it to be that way so they can hate on JL ahead of time.
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Marvolo
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Batman and Superman fought side by side and Superman gave his life to save Batman, Wonder Woman, Gotham, and Metropolis. You'd be surprised how quickly a relationship can develop under those circumstances. It happens with soldiers in combat all the time.