Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

OmegaK2099

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That's an important part. The Joker has fun with his antics, and Jack captured that more than the rest.
Sounded like your father in law telling jokes more than the joker and He was too doughy also
 

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Ok... I wanna debate this....
Cause it feels like everyone in the world says what u said about heaths performance but I never got it... I liked it, but it was never special.
I heard all the hype before hand... how he was in a dark place and his performance was so dark and disturbing.

I expected what I saw from Pheonix in this joker movie, from heath in that Dark Knight movie.
I never got that feeling.

Because these are different types of movies... I'm not gonna bash heath on that..
I just have to compare his performance to something else.

Jack Nicholson's joker... and I felt like he did it better than heath.

Now, I feel like they all did a great job..
They are professionals.
But this whole notion that Heath Ledger had some Daniel Day Lewis type of performance in that movie is some bullshyt I can not, and will never agree with

for me, speaking as someone who grew up on the batman animated series as a kid, joker was always kind of corny and was never my favorite villain. jack nicholson did a great job portraying classic joker.

what heath did was reimagine the joker in his own way, his performance made me a fan of a character i never cared for. it also made people take notice, heath was a pioneer. before him comic book movies were never taken seriously. instead of playing some over the top villain, he mixed in enough grit and realism for critics to take his performance seriousley.

not to say Joaqim cant be a better joker but he didn't get enough time to do so, i was never a batman comic book person, so maybe a fan of the comics sees it different

its all subjective :yeshrug:

but he won an oscar for that role so clearly a lot of people felt the same
 

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heath was a pioneer. before him comic book movies were never taken seriously. instead of playing some over the top villain, he mixed in enough grit and realism for critics to take his performance seriousley.
I mean, Batman Begins was taken seriously, got praise for its grit and realism.
 

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Not sure if this has been posted yet

‘Joker’ ending explained: Director Todd Phillips on fan theories and open questions

“There’s a lot of ways you could look at this movie,” Phillips said. “You could look at it and go, ‘This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.’ I don’t want to say what it is. But a lot of people I’ve shown it to have said, ‘Oh, I get it — he’s just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It’s this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.’ ”
Throughout the film, Fleck laughs uncontrollably and often inappropriately as the result of a real-life involuntary condition called pseudobulbar affect that Phillips and Silver researched when writing the screenplay. But, Phillips says, the laugh the character lets out in the film’s final moments is different from the rest.

“That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely,” Phillips said. “There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur’s affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he’s trying to be ‘one of the people,’ which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he’s in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that’s his only genuine laugh in the movie.”
 
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