Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

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I see a lot of people comparing Heath’s Joker to Phoenix’s Joker. In my opinion it’s somewhat an unfair comparison as one was “The Joker” while the other is in the process of becoming The Joker. More like a slow transformation. Reminds of Breaking Bad as we saw the transformation of Walter White to Heisenberg.

What makes Joaquin’s Joker interesting is that the transformation isn’t done. There is still a lot to be fleshed out here.
 

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That Harley Quinn movie trailer was fukking trash btw, Watching this movie and thinking wow that silly shyt is being released under DC. They need to scrap that universe and begin anew starting with this Joker
 

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His relationship with Zazie Beatz's character being made up in his head and not real
i havent even seen the commercial for this(not that it hasnt shown up. I just intentionally dont look at it)

but going off this Im guessing this is a psychological thriller then?
 

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i havent even seen the commercial for this(not that it hasnt shown up. I just intentionally dont look at it)

but going off this Im guessing this is a psychological thriller then?

Yeah that would be the best way to describe it
 

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I see a lot of people comparing Heath’s Joker to Phoenix’s Joker. In my opinion it’s somewhat an unfair comparison as one was “The Joker” while the other is in the process of becoming The Joker. More like a slow transformation. Reminds of Breaking Bad as we saw the transformation of Walter White to Heisenberg.

What makes Joaquin’s Joker interesting is that the transformation isn’t done. There is still a lot to be fleshed out here.

Mos def. They're just scratching the surface with him. Joker is like chris/omar from the wire, smart and great at planning. We didn’t see these traits from joker/arthur. Im not sure how i feel about another joker movie, but it sounds right if they make a Joker 2 with more character development. Then hopefully at some point have him face off vs Batman
 

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From an editing and direction perspective, I wish they didn't beat you over the head by the flashbacks to show you that.

Her saying, "Your name is Arthur, right?" was enough.

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Nah, I thought that part was dope as fukk. Took me back to that trippy shyt I'd see in Fight Club or Requiem for a Dream.
 
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There’s an aspect to his mental breakdown in the movie I was thinking about earlier that I haven’t really seen discussed yet. So I don’t think it’s spoiler worthy to say Arthur was really yearning for a father figure in his life, but why I say that is spoiler worthy, so
Early on, it’s established when he watches the Murray Franklin show with his mom and he fantasizes about being at the show, that he kind of idolizes Murray. Going as so far to imagine a scenario where he gets singled out of the audience, bonds with Murray who even says he’d make a fine son before hugging him live on TV. He clearly views Murray as a father figure, so he feels completely betrayed by Murray when he pokes fun at him on the same show he watched every night, hoping he could be there. Mid movie, when it’s hinted Thomas Wayne could be his dad, he views Wayne warmly and vistfully, hoping that the man who could save Gotham could maybe save him too. Just to get the work all the way around in finding out that not only is Wayne not his father, but that his mom is a nut who made it all up and that he was an orphan, before socking him right in the face. Couple those shocks to the system with the revelation that he was abused by a father figure early on in his life, and it really helps paint the picture as to why someone like him would fly off the edge how he did, especially in addition to everything else we saw on screen. Right after all his father figures let him down and he finds out his mother let him be abused, he immediately kills her, then sets out to kill Murray and indirectly (maybe) gets Thomas Wayne killed too.
 

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That Harley Quinn movie trailer was fukking trash btw, Watching this movie and thinking wow that silly shyt is being released under DC. They need to scrap that universe and begin anew starting with this Joker

:dwillhuh: how would that work with a new early 30s y/o Batman and Bruce Wayne in Joker was born in the 70s? Also Arthur/Joker would be an old man fighting a prime Batman
 
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