Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

Drew Wonder

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Very good movie. I'd say it's the best DC film since the Dark Knight.

Phoenix was great, definitely the highlight. Just a very physical performance and you felt his pain every time he laughed. And it was subtle but I liked the slight change in demeanor he had when he was off his meds compared to how he was when he was on them.

I liked the misdirections and all the hints toward it, the biggest being the reveal with Zazie Beatz' character

I also thought the way they tied it into Batman's origin was well done and not too forced.

I like how Phillips filmed the violence. Very short, didn't linger too long but was still brutal and effective. The scene where the midget tries to run out of the apartment and can't reach the lock perfectly embodies the Joker. Hilarious in a fukked up way.

While the movie was a great character study I thought the social commentary was probably its weakest element and a bit undercooked. I feel like the public should've been aware of more murders then just the subway killing for them to truly be inspired enough to revolt. And the Joker's speech to Deniro at the talk show was a little too on the nose. Would've been better to go with more subtlety or even dark humor in that scene. It was also the only scene where I felt like the people who are afraid this movie might inspire angry incels had a point.

I agree with the theory that the whole scene of him escaping the police car and the whole crowd treating him like a revolutionary hero was all in his mind. What would be even crazier however would be if he was in the Psych Ward the entire time and the whole film was a delusion. But I liked how the film left it ambiguous which goes perfectly with the Joker's character.

Taxi Driver influence was obvious but I also got some American Psycho and Fight Club vibes with all the misdirection and hints at an unreliable narrator
 

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ight yall gonna make me watch this shyt, ima be blazed post back later tonight.
 

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This was really good dark comedy at times :ehh:

Give an 8/10

The scene where the midget tries to get out of the apartment and can't reach the lock is one of the most
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I don’t agree with some ppl who are saying this joker is not smart enough to go against bats.

The original joker “origin” is some Failed comedian who becomes a stick up kid and falls in a vat of acid and goes on to eventually become the joker we know today.

I definitely think this joker could grow into a formidable foe for Batman especially since there’s a good age difference as well.

By the end of the movie, he really just starts to embrace the joker life style but there’s still some Arthur in there. But even then killing became more natural and he starts to indulge in it.

No telling what a decade of killing, busting out of Arkham state/asylum and doing random crimes ( assuming a year zero Batman would show up in a decade or so)could do for his psyche and criminal intellect.

You could see his confidence growing by the time he gets on the Murray show. He’s no longer trying to impersonate some one else. He struts out there and owns the moment as his self and balances the line between deranged, goofy and brooding better than any joker not named Mark Hamil. Like some one else said I could see this joker being the closest to Batman TAS joker before the others.

would love to see a seasoned, more deranged and methodical version of this joker go against a year one Batman who grabs the interest of a jaded joker, with a cracked out 90s NYC as the back drop

Year One Joker to me, hell, this is Junior College Joker, not the later incarnations we know.

Remember, he was on 7 mental medications and those more than likely surpressed his intellect and higher reasoning. As the film went on he became his true self and let the bodies hit the floor.

A NFL Vet level Joker who thrived in the War on Drugs in NYC during the 80s.....

Alpo: "And why da fukk would a clown get a better deal on the raw than the Columbians?"
Joker: "You wouldn't get it, you wouldn't understand"

Props to Todd Phillips for the Dark Knight homage to Ledger with a infant Joker rather than a mastermind Joker we are used to seeing....
 

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just got back...it was dope

:mjlol: @ his mom's ether....straight up was :dwillhuh: comedians are supposed to be funny

:damn: when he shot murray live

:leon: when he offed ranndell

:heh: his midget friend


comic book brehs...
is this adapted from any specific story?

cause I like how they tied in Batman's origins....but shyt if Bruce a kid here and Joker's at the youngest mid/late 30's...by the time bruce is an adult joker gonna be :flabbynsick:

Very very loosely based off The Killing Joke
 

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im reading through the posts and seeing incels? i didn't think about incels once in the entire movie :dahell: ya'll got some terrible minds

im trying to go back and think...what part was incel, can someone enlighten me to refresh my memory?

The only part I thought was slightly incel was the speech he gave to Deniro right before he killed him, where he basically said society forced him to do what he's doing. It sounds like some anti-hero fantasy shyt that an incel would come up with. Felt like the Joker would say some jokes instead of an angry speech before his big moment
 

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People in here reviewing the movie based on the wiki plot outline :mjlol:

TLR brehs seeing bedwenches everywhere :russ:

Send in the clownnnns

It's funny, when the big reveal showing that he made up the whole relationship with Zazie in his mind happened I was thinking, "Eh, they don't have to be so obvious showing the scenes where he's talking to himself. We get it." But based on some of the responses here apparently I was giving people too much credit lmao.
 

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The only part I thought was slightly incel was the speech he gave to Deniro right before he killed him, where he basically said society forced him to do what he's doing. It sounds like some anti-hero fantasy shyt that an incel would come up with. Felt like the Joker would say some jokes instead of an angry speech before his big moment
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