Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Homie, any movie in this era that stars a person the incel community can ID with on any level will be considered problematic. The message can be understood by one or most but that community will take the wrong lesson from it.

Look how many boneheads think fight club is saying Tyler durden is someone worth idolizing. The movie is saying he isn’t but that’s the problem with art being subjective. So that community was always going to take the wrong lessons from this movie and there’s nothing wrong with a critic, or anyone for that matter, pointing that out. Especially if the movie doesn’t give easy answers or neat and tidy solutions. That’s art tho

Well so far she is the only one saying it but I agree with you that the incel/alt right community is always going to find "messaging" in some form of entertainment especially when a main character is white..

They did the same shyt with The Matrix many years ago.. but why should we, people who are looking deeper into the art... care about what the incel community likes? It's not going to detract from my enjoyment in film or TV or whatever medium we're discussing.

That said, I do pay some attention to it because you have to pay attention to how your enemy is moving.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Well so far she is the only one saying it but I agree with you that the incel/alt right community is always going to find "messaging" in some form of entertainment especially when a main character is white..

They did the same shyt with The Matrix many years ago.. but why should we, people who are looking deeper into the art... care about what the incel community likes? It's not going to detract from my enjoyment in film or TV or whatever medium we're discussing.

That said, I do pay some attention to it because you have to pay attention to how your enemy is moving.

I wouldn’t say we should care but when you’re a critic you gotta be aware. No movie is released in a vacuum. To play ignorant to the world around you is false as hell.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I wouldn’t say we should care but when you’re a critic you gotta be aware. No movie is released in a vacuum. To play ignorant to the world around you is false as hell.

I don't disagree with you there.. I think there will be more reviews that feel like hers. This ain't gonna be no 100% positive movie and I think it actually works out better that way because when you have some people calling it a "masterpiece" and then other people saying it's "dangerous" or whatever.. I think it's going to attract more people to be like "okay, I need to see this."

Because honestly, I thought this would be a hit.. Now I'm thinking it will be an even bigger hit because of the conversation from both sides.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I don't disagree with you there.. I think there will be more reviews that feel like hers. This ain't gonna be no 100% positive movie and I think it actually works out better that way because when you have some people calling it a "masterpiece" and then other people saying it's "dangerous" or whatever.. I think it's going to attract more people to be like "okay, I need to see this."

Because honestly, I thought this would be a hit.. Now I'm thinking it will be an even bigger hit because of the conversation from both sides.

See I don’t believe pointing out a movies larger social implications means it’s not a good movie or means you won’t give it a good review. It CAN but the two aren’t wedded in my head. But that’s also how reviews work. People, especially on this fukking board, get way too attached to reviews and the tomato score rather than understanding the shyt is subjective and reducing a movie to a numerical value is asinine. You can give a positive review but point out flaws. You can give a flawed review but point out positives. It’s not a consumer review; it’s an art designed to tell the reader how that reviewer personally felt and their reaction. That’s it. And more than often, those reactions align with their taste. I’ve watched plenty of critically acclaimed movies that just don’t vibe with my taste or i wasn’t in the mood for at the moment.

I watched house of the devil years ago and hated it. Straight up hated it. Watched it earlier this year and loved it. Timing is everything and always will be. There’s more nuance involved than the internet wants to believe because this is not the place for nuance; something is either the dopest thing ever or its wack. And that’s so damn backwards

 

[AkaDemiK]

they fukking did it

 

[Jermio]

I'm worried some crazy dude is gonna shoot up a theater when this comes out. I'm definitely staying home opening weekend.

 

[Norrin Radd]

People are going to get ridiculous. I really hope social media dont get too crazy as we get closer to the release of this movie. shyt like that may discourage some actors from even making this type of movie due to silly backlash.

Has the run time for this movie been released yet? Feels like its going to be a quick movie based off the scenes they've shown.

2 hr I think

 

[Sad Bunny]

I think it drops Oct. 4.

Update the title.

 

[Jacaveli The Don]

People are going to get ridiculous. I really hope social media dont get too crazy as we get closer to the release of this movie. shyt like that may discourage some actors from even making this type of movie due to silly backlash.

Has the run time for this movie been released yet? Feels like its going to be a quick movie based off the scenes they've shown.

Off yourself

 

[Jello Biafra]

Homie, any movie in this era that stars a person the incel community can ID with on any level will be considered problematic. The message can be understood by one or most but that community will take the wrong lesson from it.

Look how many boneheads think fight club is saying Tyler durden is someone worth idolizing. The movie is saying he isn’t but that’s the problem with art being subjective. So that community was always going to take the wrong lessons from this movie and there’s nothing wrong with a critic, or anyone for that matter, pointing that out. Especially if the movie doesn’t give easy answers or neat and tidy solutions. That’s art tho

Those types of dudes also think Rick on Rick & Morty is the good guy of that show.
There will always be creepy socially backwards people who find a connection with a screwed up character in pop culture. The world can't change just because those weirdos exist.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Those types of dudes also think Rick on Rick & Morty is the good guy of that show.
There will always be creepy socially backwards people who find a connection with a screwed up character in pop culture. The world can't change just because those weirdos exist.

That shyt fascinates me lol. Your entire perspective as a human has to be slanted to see the world that way.

 

[jwinfield]

I hope this makes Disney think about a Marvel Knights brand of Marvel movies that allow the creatives to go wild with low budget films.

Mickey Mouse ain't going for that shyt

Let five minutes go by without a joke or pop culture reference

 

[-DMP-]

@Still FloW got one with this one

 

[Brandeezy]

Mickey Mouse ain't going for that shyt

Let five minutes go by without a joke or pop culture reference

Mannnn I swear if Deadpool or Blade are some PG-13 shyt

WB is releasing family friendly Shazam, R-rated Joker & Birds Of Prey then family friendly Wonder Woman in a span of a year. Idk why Disney can't do that when they're dropping Billion dollar films left and right. We were suppose to get that in the form of a Doom movie by Noah Hawley for FOX but Disney pulled it after the merger

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Most of the negative reviews of the film are on some political shyt...not sure how I feel about that.