Official Ghostbusters (2016) Thread

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My thing is why not just make a spy series staring a woman instead? I don't want a woman to take over a role written for a guy and vice versa. I'd rather women have their own character who was written to be a woman originally.

I want people to be more creative than "Okay lets do another James Bond...this time James Bond is a woman."

An all female cast shouldn't feel like a gimmick.
Replace the gender with race
And and youre basically saying all the things people say when they don't want to switch a characters race
 

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Replace the gender with race
And and youre basically saying all the things people say when they don't want to switch a characters race
I'd rather we get our own superheroes, secret agents and other characters too though.

Same with women.

I don't want Batman or Superman to randomly be black. I want our own black superheroes to get more popular and more of them to be created. I want more Black Panther, Luke Cage, Cyborg, Static Shock, etc.

I don't want Batman or Superman to randomly be a woman. Create more women superheroes instead. That's why we now have Batgirl, Batwoman, Supergirl, She-Hulk, Power Girl, etc.

Black heroes have taken up the mantle of previously white characters but doesn't it make more more sense than a woman calling herself Batman or Superman or Spiderman? Women deserve their own heroes, not just switching them out in place of males.
 

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How is anything he said racist? People were coming at her on Twitter a couple months ago and he stepped in. The shyt was getting so extreme that she was going to shut her twitter down and thats why he said don't leave us. I'm missing the racism on it breh. Seems like a director coming to the aide of his actor
 

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How is anything he said racist? People were coming at her on Twitter a couple months ago and he stepped in. The shyt was getting so extreme that she was going to shut her twitter down and thats why he said don't leave us. I'm missing the racism on it breh. Seems like a director coming to the aide of his actor

It's not about defending a cast-member, it's about trying to brush aside the racism accusations.

People go at him for the all-female cast and it's "you geeks are being sexist"

But when people bring up the very blatant stepin'-fetchit character, it's "grow up and leave us alone!".

So what is it? On one hand we can enforce a progressive agenda, but when it comes to blacks, :mjpls:

If not for Leslie Jones, I'd mostly :yeshrug: this project. But he couldn't help himself. Just had tothrow a comedic c00n in there.
 

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It's not about defending a cast-member, it's about trying to brush aside the racism accusations.

People go at him for the all-female cast and it's "you geeks are being sexist"

But when people bring up the very blatant stepin'-fetchit character, it's "grow up and leave us alone!".

So what is it? On one hand we can enforce a progressive agenda, but when it comes to blacks, :mjpls:

If not for Leslie Jones, I'd mostly :yeshrug: this project. But he couldn't help himself. Just had tothrow a comedic c00n in there.

Well here's how I see it. People came at her for doing her brand of comedy. Her role in this movie was originally going to be Melissa's but Leslie felt better doing what she feel she does best which is to be the loud one. So coming at her about the role she's playing basically means coming at her for her whole persona and standup routine.

And maybe I'm bugging but aside from her being loud and outrageous, how is this role different from Ernie Hudson's in the original? The black guy who just wanted to get paid
 

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Well here's how I see it. People came at her for doing her brand of comedy. Her role in this movie was originally going to be Melissa's but Leslie felt better doing what she feel she does best which is to be the loud one. So coming at her about the role she's playing basically means coming at her for her whole persona and standup routine.

And maybe I'm bugging but aside from her being loud and outrageous, how is this role different from Ernie Hudson's in the original? The black guy who just wanted to get paid
In the original script for Ghostbusters, Winston Zeddemore was intended to be the smartest and most capable of the Ghostbusters, a former Marine with multiple degrees and a Ph.D., making him more suited for the job than the founding three Ghostbusters.[2] However, in the final screenplay none of these qualifications were mentioned. The changes are discussed in detail in the commentary on the DVD of Ghostbusters, the explanation being Winston allowed the technobabble to be put into layman's terms.[citation needed]

However, the novelization of Ghostbusters mentions Zeddemore's service with the Marines prior to joining the Ghostbusters. Further, in Ghostbusters: The Video Game, while the Ghostbusters are on a mission in the New York History Museum, Zeddemore reminisces about the time he spent studying for his doctorate in the museum's Egyptology wing. (In context, it's unclear if Zeddemore studied for the doctorate prior to joining the Ghostbusters, or sometime between the events of the movies and the game's setting in 1991.)

Zeddemore is a religious man to some extent, saying in a discussion in Ghostbusters that he believes in God and "loves Jesus' style". While driving the Ecto-1 with Ray, he voices his thoughts that the sudden spike in ghost appearances might be a sign of the apocalypse, pointing out that while they have come to treat capturing ghosts as routine pest control, in a very real sense the dead are literally "rising from the grave".
 

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but Leslie felt better doing what she feel she does best which is to be the loud one. So coming at her about the role she's playing basically means coming at her for her whole persona and standup routine.
I just wish that loud black woman caricature would be fazed out, seeing someone satisfied playing that person over and over again is kinda :hmm:. Black people are diverse and deserve diverse roles without having to play stereotypes.

Actors should have range to some extent. But what do I know about anything? I'm just a random dude on the internet. :laugh:
 

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I just wish that loud black woman caricature would be fazed out, seeing someone satisfied playing that person over and over again is kinda :hmm:. Black people are diverse and deserve diverse roles without having to play stereotypes.

Actors should have range to some extent. But what do I know about anything? I'm just a random dude on the internet. :laugh:

Nah you right. I agree with you wholeheartedly but I also know that with comedians, they are what they are and they are what they're comfortable doing. I'd love if she did the opposite of that but that's also not my call. I realized a long time ago that not everyone is trying to fight the power, some people are just going to do them and they either cant be concerned about everyone else or they won't be. Either way, it's their call.

But at the same time, to paraphrase a great black character from the west wing, there are a lot of real battles to fight. can't always be consumed by the cosmetic ones
 
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