Official Game of Thrones Season 6 Thread

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I see they killed Rickon because they couldn't be bothered actually creating a storyline for him and developing his character, I guess it's not a suprise considering they have like what 1 season left and they do want dwindle down the cast to potential winners of the Iron Throne, but I still think he's very important to the story in the book...I have faith :mjcry:

Someone in here quoted GRRM as having said he regretted creating Rickon cause he had nothing for him, so I doubt he's very important in the books, either.

But potential winners to the Iron Throne??? That's still what you think this all about???:dame:
 
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So, sending a raven to the Blackfish is risky but, sending one to Littlefinger isnt :heh: and why send away one of your best fighters (Brienne) before a war. Sansa doesn't care about her family anymore. She cares about getting revenge and protecting herself. She sacrificed her little brother. She didn't even look at his body when he was on the stretcher....just asked where Ramsey was. Her plan would have easily gotten Jon killed. Someone could have stabbed him 50 different times out there. She didn't care. Now contrast that with Ned or Cat. Ned nor Cat would be that apathetic about their sons getting killed or putting them in dangerous situations like that. Sansa is gone. She's adopted behaviors from her captors. I think she realized Rickon was a foregone conclusion and detached emotionally, and she hoped Jon died too so there would be no one standing in her way of Winterfell. The fact she keeps bringing up Jon being a b*stard is disgusting too.
The Blackfish was under siege. Do you not understand how that is risky?
 

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why the fukk did the giant not have
1. armour
2. a fukking weapon?

big old dude was just kicking and swinging smfh
give that bigass breh a full suit of armor and a giant fukking stick and i guarantee you the battle would've been a fukkin doozy

at least make him throw some goddamn rocks
Red woman should bring him back
 

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So you just want entire story arcs abandoned because the White Walkers are coming?
:heh:

No more Kings Landing or Daenerys or pretty much no more anything because Hexagram says we dont have time

Why didnt they just make this entire series a 1 season battle between good men and evil demons. Is that what this is supposed to be now?

:francis:

If the character and their motivations are completely useless against the White Walkers, yes. LF is a glorified politician....is he going to debate them to death?

Abandoned....no. Folded into the main story....yes. We got 15 episodes left, LF could die the next episode and it would have zero impact on the war against the White Walkers. Which is the whole point of the series. Not who sits on the Iron Throne. Not who is the Warden Of The North.

There's a million arcs to wrap up between now and the series end and people are already complaining they're cutting corners. Like with the Arya arc. So no, I'd rather they not focus on superfluous shyt.

Fred.
 

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So, sending a raven to the Blackfish is risky but, sending one to Littlefinger isnt :heh: and why send away one of your best fighters (Brienne) before a war. Sansa doesn't care about her family anymore. She cares about getting revenge and protecting herself.

You're giving HBO too much credit. They just wanted Brienne to meet Jamie.
 

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Im done with this argument. Y'all keep coming up with the same lame reasons that in no way justify what she did. If you want my rebuttal go back and read the comments I already made to the other Sansa supporters who said the same exact mess you did.
you don't have an argument tho...

Your point is that Jon had nothing to go on by waiting for more troops since Sansa didn't tell him about the army she sent out for so he had to go and fight the war now. OK...cool. We're with you there.

Your point is that Sansa used Rickon to go out and fight this war in the first place. I counter that with once Ramsay sent Jon that letter that his mind was made up to go to war in the first place. We already knew Sansa wanted to take back Winterfell in the first place, Ramsay's letter just stirred the pot some more for her. Act like Jon was gonna receive word that Ramsay had his little brother, threatened to kill him, and not march for Winterfell brehs.



Like I said earlier, once that letter reached Jon his mind was made up.

Your point is that once Jon watched his brother killed in front of him, he had no choice but to charge. Nah....if he were smarter he would've hardened his heart back when he received that letter about Rickon. No one told him to be so sure that he would save Rickon....there was always the possibility of his death once he was captured. If he were smarter, he would've used his anger and hatred in that moment for Ramsay to put himself in a position to win instead of recklessly put himself in a position to lose.

So knowing all this, I'm not sure what big difference Jon knowing about the Vale does in the grand scheme of things. If he knows earlier, maybe he waits and then Ramsay suckers him into attacking first and they all die anyway. If he knows when he asked Sansa what he should do differently the night before, it's too late and things play out the way they do anyway...maybe Jon gets a little sloppier because he knows he's receiving back up....maybe not. The only thing we do know for sure, is that the way things played out turned out to be a clear victory and we have one person to thank for making the call.
 

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I'll always be more interested in the political fukkery than the fantasy fukkery. :yeshrug:

Bring on more Littlefinger chaos is a ladder maneuvering. More Tyrion, Varys, Margery, Olenna, Sansa too. If the shyt just turns into one big CG battle fest for the last 15 episodes, then:camby:

They can't fight the White Walkers politically. It has to be some big CG fight. What would LF, Varys or Margaery do at Hardhome?

The writers have beat us over the head with "the real fight is against the dead"....the vast majority of the characters you named have no place in that fight. They don't even know that fight exists. I'm not saying write off half the characters but whatever they're doing needs to start connecting to the real war.

Fred.
 

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you don't have an argument tho...

Your point is that Jon had nothing to go on by waiting for more troops since Sansa didn't tell him about the army she sent out for so he had to go and fight the war now. OK...cool. We're with you there.

Your point is that Sansa used Rickon to go out and fight this war in the first place. I counter that with once Ramsay sent Jon that letter that his mind was made up to go to war in the first place. We already knew Sansa wanted to take back Winterfell in the first place, Ramsay's letter just stirred the pot some more for her. Act like Jon was gonna receive word that Ramsay had his little brother, threatened to kill him, and not march for Winterfell brehs.



Like I said earlier, once that letter reached Jon his mind was made up.

Your point is that once Jon watched his brother killed in front of him, he had no choice but to charge. Nah....if he were smarter he would've hardened his heart back when he received that letter about Rickon. No one told him to be so sure that he would save Rickon....there was always the possibility of his death once he was captured. If he were smarter, he would've used his anger and hatred in that moment for Ramsay to put himself in a position to win instead of recklessly put himself in a position to lose.

So knowing all this, I'm not sure what big difference Jon knowing about the Vale does in the grand scheme of things. If he knows earlier, maybe he waits and then Ramsay suckers him into attacking first and they all die anyway. If he knows when he asked Sansa what he should do differently the night before, it's too late and things play out the way they do anyway...maybe Jon gets a little sloppier because he knows he's receiving back up....maybe not. The only thing we do know for sure, is that the way things played out turned out to be a clear victory and we have one person to thank for making the call.

did you watch that video? Sansa said "a monster has our home and our brother..we have to go back and save them both"
 

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It's pretty clear she's becoming "Cunning Sansa." She got used and abused for five seasons by all sorts of people and she's finally turned cold hearted. How is this a problem? It's great character development.
 

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I hope they clear it up next episode. I wanna believe Sansa was just so blinded by her hatred towards Ramsey that she became cold and cared more about killing him than protecting Jon/Rickon. I hope it's that, and not that she's now this dark and manipulative person.
 

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They can't fight the White Walkers politically. It has to be some big CG fight. What would LF, Varys or Margaery do at Hardhome?

The writers have beat us over the head with "the real fight is against the dead"....the vast majority of the characters you named have no place in that fight. They don't even know that fight exists. I'm not saying write off half the characters but whatever they're doing needs to start connecting to the real war.

Fred.
How do you know what they can do politically? We have no idea what the motivations of the White Walkers are. What do they want? What have they been doing for thousands of years? What kept them out of sight, out of mind? Why are they just now coming back? We know they have some form of culture and language. Martin has said his story won't just be beautiful good guys vs ugly bad guys. So it's possible that the White Walkers could want something that can be worked out with a pact or agreement. I have believed for awhile now that Jon would be the one to mediate that, especially since his entire time on the series has been him being the go-between. Either way, I really don't believe the last 15 episodes are going to be one big battle.

Also, even if the battle for the dawn is going to occur over 15 episodes, I don't think it'll happen over the entire continent. The political fallout/destruction is going to be featured, and it should, even if it won't directly connect to whatever battle will be occurring with the White Walkers.
 

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Outside of the show the actress is kind of not unattractive

You sound crazy right now. They make her less attractive on the show.

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