Ramsay just a mad dog breh, I thought he was gonna be smarter than he has been, he just got a screw loose, no more no lessRamsay killing Rickon would be to stupid even for him ... At least you would think
My father was poisoned by his enemies
Ramsay just a mad dog breh, I thought he was gonna be smarter than he has been, he just got a screw loose, no more no lessRamsay killing Rickon would be to stupid even for him ... At least you would think
Jon leading the wildlings there is disrespectful and a disloyal act, the whole reason Thorne and Ollie bodied him. They put up a manned wall (at least at this point/perspective in history since most dont know about white walkers or thinks it's just lore) explicitly to keep wildlings out. What is there to talk about? Umber wants these dudes killed before they truly kick up shyt for his people. Jon is dead wrong for that shyt in his eyes, ain't nothing to talk aboutI'd think he'd go to Castle Black BECAUSE he let the Wildlings in. Especially since that leader is a b*stard of your former liege Lord. Gotta believe you have a friend in him. Also,I'd think they historically have a great relationship with the Night's Watch too...why go straight to war? Why seek help from someone as untrustworthy as the Boltons?
But whatever tho. They're mad the Wildlings are so close, I can accept that. It wouldn't have felt like it came from nowhere if they at least sent a raven to Castle Black voicing their displeasure with Jon's decision.
Jon leading the wildlings there is disrespectful and a disloyal act, the whole reason Thorne and Ollie bodied him. They put up a manned wall (at least at this point/perspective in history since most dont know about white walkers or thinks it's just lore) explicitly to keep wildlings out. What is there to talk about? Umber wants these dudes killed before they truly kick up shyt for his people. Jon is dead wrong for that shyt in his eyes, ain't nothing to talk about
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Ned Stark let that Tully run the show which is why his last name is SNOW, not STARK. Ned would fold like a bytch when it came to Jon and Cat. Even Bolton gave his b*stards son his name
Jon didn't want to stay behind in Winterfell because he knew Cat would treat him like a mutt. He rather team up with rapists and thieves from flea bottom then stay in Winterfell.
Ya'll can try to twist it how u want but we know exactly how Jon was treated as a "stark"
#SnowSet
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Ned Stark let that Tully run the show which is why his last name is SNOW, not STARK. Ned would fold like a bytch when it came to Jon and Cat. Even Bolton gave his b*stards son his name
Jon didn't want to stay behind in Winterfell because he knew Cat would treat him like a mutt. He rather team up with rapists and thieves from flea bottom then stay in Winterfell.
Ya'll can try to twist it how u want but we know exactly how Jon was treated as a "stark"
#SnowSet
but Umber just informed him of the situation with the Wildings, that they might be led by Jon Snow, and that they could eventually make it WinterfellThere is no clue saying Ramsay even knows about the wildlings, they aren't his concern. And at this point, they think jon is simply at castle black being lord commander - they don't know of his death and resurrection, they may not even know he brought wildlings to westeros until littlejon umber shows up. Even before his death, nothing said the wildlings were going to be led by him, they are allies, but he isn't their leader, and even now as dolo jon stark, nothing says he'll be commanding the wildlings. All that to say, jon was never seen as a threat to Ramsay in that vein (marching around with an army). The only reason Ramsay cared about him is to get rid of any remaining stark that could challenge him for winterfell, b*stard or not.
So yes, the gift was needed, one, to get troops to help the umbers take on the wildlings and also, possibly, lure jon into the fray
When have acts of dishonor and disloyalty led to ambassador talks? Jon betrayed the realm ,end of story. The savages who have ravaged his people for years are living beside him en masse, they have to go. Again, there is nothing to talk about. If someone murdered your mom, and your boy brought him to your house to chill, you're not having a conversation with your boy, both them nikkaz catching the fade.Uhh, why he's doing it? Are they gonna have to fight the Wildlings AND the Watch? Etc.
But we're talking in circles at this point.
she still got clegane thoCersei is still out here hellbent on revenge and being short-sighted instead of falling back
No allies
Surrounded by a thugged out army of zealots that she invited
Dorne murdering her daughter
Started a petty feud with House Tyrell
She caught the L, the titties are out the bag and everyone saw it. Unless she's planning on killing everyone in Westeros, her little mission is pointless
Tommen is out here looking like he's about to be manipulated on some catholic school shyt, andwithout his full support, she's nothing
she still got clegane tho
she still got clegane tho
Hmm, what happens in tommen dies? Who becomes king?
she still got clegane tho
if Stannis was alive it wouldve been him, he was recognized by everyone as the next in line for the BaratheonsHmm, what happens in tommen dies? Who becomes king?
it would be complicated, and probably lead to war, with the victor crowning themselvesHmm, what happens in tommen dies? Who becomes king?