Official Game of Thrones Season 4 Thread *The North Remembers*(NO SPOILERS!!)

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Another changed plotline, most likely meant to endear Robb to the TV audience (women especially) so the Red Wedding would be more brutal. It is less head scratching when you look at it how it was actually written.

Robb had just won victory in battle and found out that Theon sacked Winterfell and murdered Bran and Rickon. Talisa (Jeyne Westerling in the book) was a woman of noble birth, and she comforted him after the battle which led to them making the mistake of Robb taking her maidenead. He didnt want to bring great shame on her and her family, so he married her out of honor. Also, Cat was not present at the time to stop him. Robb was still a boy, fresh off the deaths of his father and brothers and its tough to expect him to never make a mistake. He seemed almost ashamed of it all, the whole "I'm in love" story was a tv creation.

What the hell does that mean?


While I hated the 'I'm in love' story I could buy it...I was just hung up on the fact that he
couldn't wait til the end of the war to do something that would piss off his most untrustworthy ally. The book version makes
so much more sense (assuming you're saying that she got pregnant...fear of pregnancy was the only way I could rationalize the TV version, but even then: just stick to anal Robb )

 

[King Crimson]

i like how they used the show to kill a book theory that shyt was fukked up and funny at the same time. ima put it in tags for the show watchers but it isnt really a spoiler.

Spoiler

for years book readers thought that jeyne( talisa) got away with robb's unborn seed in her belly. in the books she never goes to the twins and stays behind in riverrun and when robb gets killed, its speculated that she gets away somehow and that in her belly is the heir to the king in the north. then in the show they showed them stabbing talisa in the stomach over and over just to kill that theory

Spoiler

Did she get away with the young wolf's seed though?

 

[satam55]

What the hell does that mean?

Taking her Virginity.

 

[beanz]

Spoiler

Did she get away with the young wolf's seed though?

Spoiler

nah she ends up being sent back home with her mom. stabbing talisa in the stomach in the show was GRRM's way of deading that theory.

 

[Adam3000]

What the hell does that mean?


While I hated the 'I'm in love' story I could buy it...I was just hung up on the fact that he
couldn't wait til the end of the war to do something that would piss off his most untrustworthy ally. The book version makes
so much more sense (assuming you're saying that she got pregnant...fear of pregnancy was the only way I could rationalize the TV version, but even then: just stick to anal Robb )

Taking her maidenhead is taking her virginity. For a noble born woman, it is a great shame to lose virginity outside of marriage and probably would have prevented her from marrying anybody but scum in the future. Basically she was comforting him and just out of the passion of man and woman they fukked. Robb didn't want to dishonor the Westerling family.

 

[King Crimson]

Spoiler

nah she ends up being sent back home with her mom. stabbing talisa in the stomach in the show was GRRM's way of deading that theory.

Spoiler

It's not fair.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Taking her maidenhead is taking her virginity. For a noble born woman, it is a great shame to lose virginity outside of marriage and probably would have prevented her from marrying anybody but scum in the future. Basically she was comforting him and just out of the passion of man and woman they fukked. Robb didn't want to dishonor the Westerling family.

Maggie Tyrrell seems to be doing just fine

 

[satam55]

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Did she get away with the young wolf's seed though?

I'm gonna assume No, because that's too important a storyline to cut out from the show.

 

[Adam3000]

Maggie Tyrrell seems to be doing just fine

But Margery is a virgin as far as any of us knows, even though she is talking slick about sexuality on the show. Renly never hit it.

 

[satam55]

Spoiler

nah she ends up being sent back home with her mom. stabbing talisa in the stomach in the show was GRRM's way of deading that theory.

Spoiler

It's not fair.

I REALLY wanna read what @beanz posted in that spoiler quote. Because I have NO IDEA what happens to Robb's Wife in the Books, Blackfish Tully, & Edmure Tully after the Red Wedding. All I know is there is supposed to be

Spoiler

A Siege on Riverrun in Book 4

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[MidniteJay]

But Margery is a virgin as far as any of us knows, even though she is talking slick about sexuality on the show. Renly never hit it.

Maybe she lets them fukk her in the ass.

 

[satam55]

Maggie Tyrrell seems to be doing just fine

But Margery is a virgin as far as any of us knows, even though she is talking slick about sexuality on the show. Renly never hit it.

We gonna forget it still ended up well for Lysa Tully.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

But Margery is a virgin as far as any of us knows, even though she is talking slick about sexuality on the show. Renly never hit it.

I'm just alluding to that Renly/Loras convo:

Loras: You have to deflower my sister
Renly: Your sister's a virgin?
Loras: Well, official she is

 

[MidniteJay]

But Margery is a virgin as far as any of us knows, even though she is talking slick about sexuality on the show. Renly never hit it.

Maybe she lets them fukk her in the ass.

 

[satam55]

But Margery is a virgin as far as any of us knows, even though she is talking slick about sexuality on the show. Renly never hit it.

Does she do that in the Books?