Official Game of Thrones Season 4 Thread *The North Remembers*(NO SPOILERS!!)

[Adam3000]

a true father figure for the fatherless . My hero and mentor .

@Francis White hitting his once per week Littlefinger post quota


"Chaos is a ladder" -- Littlefinger

Too bad your boy was born on one of the bottom rungs

 

[obarth]

Let Littlefinger fukk around and get that throne. @Francis White is gonna shyt on all of us on some started from the bottom shyt

 

[Francis White]

Let Littlefinger fukk around and get that throne. @Francis White is gonna shyt on all of us on some started from the bottom shyt

You damn right I will, he will do more than the off brand Stark set will ever accomplish . They wish they had a brilliant mind like on the team .

 

[Francis White]

Let Littlefinger fukk around and get that throne. @Francis White is gonna shyt on all of us on some started from the bottom shyt

Another thing you got Carl Grimes in your Avi , you know it's only so long fake thugs could pretend and he got exposed . Lizzie is more about that little man Carl .

 

[obarth]

Another thing you got Carl Grimes in your Avi , you know it's only so long fake thugs could pretend and he got exposed . Lizzie is more about that little man Carl .

I haven't watched any episodes of the second half yet

 

[Adam3000]

You damn right I will, he will do more than the off brand Stark set will ever accomplish . They wish they had a brilliant mind like on the team .

Varys >>> Littlefinger

Petey better hope that confrontation in season 1 was the last time they flex on each other. Getting your shyt snatched by a eunech gonna be a humbling experience

Dont get me wrong I'll take Baelish on the throne over any Lannister, but still,

 

[King Crimson]

I kinda wondered why..loneliness..attraction(she's like 11 in the books)..or needed a family

I figured a little bit of both... They both have been snatched away from what they know.

This is another stain on his character along with the okie doke on Renly

But understand the moral dilemma here

"What is one boy vs. an entire kingdom".....according to Melisandre, the burning of Gendry would literally bring an end to the war and put Stannis on the throne. Power in a king's blood. If Gendry was just some random teenager (adult in their world) then I would burn him no question. The problem becomes that he is Robert's blood, which makes him Stannis' blood too. Killing kin is one of the most unforgiveable sins in their entire world. But Gendry is a b*stard, does he really even count as kin? Major grey area all around.

Also, take into account that Stannis appointed a low born smuggler (Davos) as his right hand man and his future hand of king. This goes well beyond what is considered unacceptable in terms of royal behavior, but Stannis knew that Davos was the right man for the job so he did it anyway. And it was Davos that saved Gendry. Stannis put Davos there to protect him from himself. Sure, Stannis made the wrong decision by giving Gendry to Mel, but he made the right decision before that to stop the outcome from happening.

And in the end, Stannis is still the king by every law known to man.

I'm gonna defend Stannis a bit in spoiler tags. The reason I'm putting spoiler tags up is because I am going to briefly cite a few differences between how the show has portrayed his character and how the book does. I'm only going to mention past events that have already occurred on the show, so show-only watchers can click this if they want a brief summary of why Stannis is loved so much. I'm putting it in spoiler tags out of courtesy to those who don't want anything to do with it

Spoiler

Stannis fans are almost always book readers, because to be quite frank his portrayal on the show along with some slight changes to the plot paint him in more of a negative light. It is one of the few issues that I consider to be legit gripes with the story adaptation. In regards to Renly's murder, we never see the lead up in the books. We never see or find out about Stannis having sex with Melisandre or lusting after her, we never see him order Davos to smuggle her in. That never happened as far as we know. in the book the shadow just appears and "looks like Stannis" and we find out indirectly later that Stannis is weakened by Melisandre, and it is heavily implied that they had sex and created the shadow baby. The show writers took great liberty with this implication and turned it into a major moment in the show and it makes Stannis come off as a simp. Furthermore, he is much more dismissive of Melisandre in the book. He doesn't lust for her or simp her at all, he really only has her there as a means to the end.

In regards to Gendry, I'm almost certain that Stannis does not order Melisandre to burn him in the books (it is actually a different b*stard of Robert that they capture, not Gendry, but the characters were combined for the show). I may be remembering wrong, but I think he is still weighing his options (and it is a HUGE moral struggle for him, we get to see his thoughts and dig deeper into the morality). Davos frees the b*stard before Stannis ever orders his death. And I'm pretty sure that Stannis never orders the execution of Davos in the books either.

All around, the portrayal of Stannis on the show has been a bit more dark and evil while in the books he is a man just trying to do his duty as rightful king. He is quite funny as well, although the humor is very dry. I believe the intent of altering his character into more of an antagonist is to not confuse the general audience of who the protagonist is (Dany). Lets be reality....the average viewer is incredibly stupid and does not want to deal with conflicting emotions. There is a reason why The Wire was never a popular show. The hardcore viewers who love to be challenged do not pay the bills.

Understandable. When examined in that way, stannis is a much more sympathetic character.

a true father figure for the fatherless . My hero and mentor .

Stop it five. It's gonna come out that he betrayed Ned Stark and when does, young hitta, Arya gonna put needle through his eye.
The North Remembers.

@Francis White hitting his once per week Littlefinger post quota


"Chaos is a ladder" -- Littlefinger

Too bad your boy was born on one of the bottom rungs

 

[satam55]

I forgot to post these IGN interviews from this past week:













People really hate Theon like that?

The show does a really good job of making Theon sympathetic, despite the fact that he betrayed his good friend The King in the North, The King of the Trident, The Lord of Winterfell, The Young Wolf, King Robb (First of his name) Stark.

 

[King Crimson]

I forgot to post these IGN interviews from this past week:













People really hate Theon like that?

The show does a really good job of making Theon sympathetic, despite the fact that he betrayed his good friend The King in the North, The King of the Trident, The Lord of Winterfell, The Young Wolf, King Robb (First of his name) Stark.

I actually find him to be rather sympathetic. I honestly don't believe he left for Pike with the intent of betraying Robb. Like many GoT characters, he's the victim of one monumental fukkup that he can't ever come back from.

 

[Francis White]

I figured a little bit of both... They both have been snatched away from what they know.




Understandable. When examined in that way, stannis is a much more sympathetic character.



Stop it five. It's gonna come out that he betrayed Ned Stark and when does, young hitta, Arya gonna put needle through his eye.
The North Remembers.

Arya? Lol she owes her life to Littlefinger so does her sister . When you think about Littlefinger doing more for you weak ass Stark stans than they could do on their own. Jon Snow out in the cold doing no damage.

 

[Francis White]

Varys >>> Littlefinger

Petey better hope that confrontation in season 1 was the last time they flex on each other. Getting your shyt snatched by a eunech gonna be a humbling experience

Dont get me wrong I'll take Baelish on the throne over any Lannister, but still,

Really, a guy who uses the bathroom sitting down is a threat ? Varys wishes he had the brains and cunning of the coli Father Figure. Littlefinger is a true good guy. He just doing what he can in shark waters. Too bad he doesn't have balls to get the job done.

 

[southsideblk]

I haven't watched any episodes of the second half yet

You ain't watched yet , I'm surprised at you. Breh you gotta get caught up. The second half off to a strong start, so much better without the gov. Every since the wire, I'm prefer shows with multiple focal points, seems like they giving that format a shot this time around.

 

[Soundbwoy]

that turncoat

 

[satam55]

SOOOOO......Who would y'all rather smash, Craster's Daughter-wives or Walder Frey's Daughters/Granddaughters?

 

[daze23]

that turncoat

"turncloak" is the preferred terminology