OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19

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I feel bad for Dany. Listening to these simp and snake ass advisors got her out here fukkin up. Losing scores of her own forces and dragons and the people she saved immediately start plotting against her :wow:

I miss the old dany on her trill shyt. When she ran up in Mereen and crucified the slave masters :mjlit: or when she finessed the dude out of his unsullied.

If she had listened to her instincts this show could have been over already last season. She could have ran down on KL razed that bytch then took the Night King down after the rest of westeros bent the knee
 

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Nikkas in here working overtime filling in big ass plotholes and trying to defend the shytty writing,
all while the writers of this show got the bag and dipped.

It's like the writers was on the sinking Titanic and got airlifted out while y'all still on the boat with a little ass bucket trying to toss water out
 

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Supernatural been on since like 2004

You don’t see them nikkas bytching. They cashing them checks and shooting episodes yet D&D had to be begged to do 6 more episodes. They can’t say there was no more material to adapt when they pushed through hella plots and chose to omit a lot of characters from the book. They shouldve had an extra season with 1 focusing on the throne and the extra season on the white walkers. All this stuff could’ve been fleshed out better.
 
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Nikkas in here working overtime filling in big ass plotholes and trying to defend the shytty writing,
all while the writers of this show got the bag and dipped.

It's like the writers was on the sinking Titanic and got airlifted out while y'all still on the boat with a little ass bucket trying to toss water out

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Nikkas in here working overtime filling in big ass plotholes and trying to defend the shytty writing,
all while the writers of this show got the bag and dipped.

It's like the writers was on the sinking Titanic and got airlifted out while y'all still on the boat with a little ass bucket trying to toss water out
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I felt the same way. I said it's like the writers are at the airport at 2am secretly trying to flee the country wearing a trench coat and a graucho marx disguise on their face, while the nation descends into chaos trying to make sense of the final season.
 

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So many folk upset with the criticism yet the only real comebacks I see are:

"It's been shyt since season 5 why are y'all complaining now"
"George should've finished the books!"

Nothing about why the choreography for the Battle of Winterfell was actually good. Or how the storylines actually make sense. Or how Jon saying goodbye to Ghost with a bro-nod is actually in character.
 
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The biggest issue is that the Showrunners haven’t done ANYTHING to justify the “Mad Queen” angle they are forcing Dany towards. Almost NOTHING she’s done over the course of these past two seasons has been out of the realm of practicality or reason. She risked her life and her Dragon’s life to go help Jon and bring PROOF that the WW threat was real. She then put her OWN ambitions for the throne on hold to bring her entire fukking army North to assist in the great war, fought in said war, proving herself a courageous leader, and gets shyt in return from the racist, backwards ass Northerners. Now she JUST learns that the man she loves is her relative, with a stronger claim to the throne, and her first thought isn’t to kill or hurt him. Its to ask him to simply keep silent about it to his treacherous, short sited cousin and murderous, short cited cousin.

I mean honestly, what the fukk has Dany done to incite such distrust in Varys to the point where he’s OPENLY (which is stupid as fukk) speaking of having Dany “removed” in favor of Jon? I’m a Jon fan, but this “the person who DOESN’T want the throne is best to rule” edict is complete and utter bullshyt.

You know who ELSE didn’t really want the throne? ROBERT fukkING BARATHEON! And look how he turned the seven kingdoms to horse shyt. He was so depressed from ruling that he sank into whoring and drinking himself into a stupor while his wife fukked her brother and he basically indebted the realm to Twyin Lannister.

Jon is a soldier, a good man, and a decent leader. But he’s no King. And he’s no King because he specifically has a distaste for dishonesty and shrewd behavior. Those are two things any ruler MUST be willing to embrace in order to be successful (at least initially). Sansa doesn’t care about Jon or her family (and ANYONE who argues differently either hasn’t been watching the series from the beginning or simply has a blind hard on for redheaded white women) Sansa cares about herself and those whom she can manipulate. She feels as if she can MANIPULATE Jon (as she did leading up the Battle Of The b*stards) into making the North independent (with her a Warden) so she’s “backing” him as potential ruler. Dany can see that shyt a mile away. So again, she was RIGHT in asking Jon to keep that Aegon shyt to himself.

Sam told Jon he sacrificed his crown to Dany for the good of the people and would she do the same? Dany has already sacrificed her entire army and two dragons for the good of the people. Jon has rejected the crown to her FACE now at least three times. What else is she supposed to do? There comes a time when proving yourself isn’t necessary and ACTION becomes so. Thats why its called SHOW and prove.


The Show-Runners have taken all logic out of the show and replaced it with spectacle. Varys should be MUCH smarter than to admit to Tyrion, the muthafukking HAND OF THE QUEEN, that he’s concocting plans to have Dany deposed. Varys should also know, for all his scheming, what kind of person she is. Her entire psyche is based upon her messianic qualities. The fact that that she gave “birth” to three dragons for the first time in centuries. He KNEW this going in and now wants to question the very basis of why Dany believes in her right to rule? Horrible writing.
 

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You don’t see them nikkas bytching. They cashing them checks and shooting episodes yet D&D had to be begged to do 6 more episodes. They can’t say there was no more material to adapt when they pushed through hella plots and chose to omit a lot of characters from the book. They shouldve had an extra season with 1 focusing on the throne and the extra season on the white walkers. All this stuff could’ve been fleshed out better.

D&D needed GRRM to give them big moments to work towards and to imbue the show with all the subtlety and nuance that people loved this show for. It’s clear D&D misguidedly thought they could capture GRRMs style and tone but it’s obvious now that they don’t understand it as much as they thought. GRRM laid such good foundations with all the characters, hence why we love them or hate them. D&D not being able to walk on their own feet writing scripts when they’ve been in his world since season 1 is such a failure.

Agree with you I don’t know how they rushed through all that book material so quickly. It’s clear they chose to retcon plot lines they weren’t interested in and it’s come back to bite them. I understand at times it was necessary to omit some arcs because not everything GRRM writes is good or translates well to television.
 
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The biggest issue is that the Showrunners haven’t done ANYTHING to justify the “Mad Queen” angle they are forcing Dany towards. Almost NOTHING she’s done over the course of these past two seasons has been out of the realm of practicality or reason. She risked her life and her Dragon’s life to go help Jon and bring PROOF that the WW threat was real. She then put her OWN ambitions for the throne on hold to bring her entire fukking army North to assist in the great war, fought in said war, proving herself a courageous leader, and gets shyt in return from the racist, backwards ass Northerners. Now she JUST learns that the man she loves is her relative, with a stronger claim to the throne, and her first thought isn’t to kill or hurt him. Its to ask him to simply keep silent about it to his treacherous, short sited cousin and murderous, short cited cousin.

I mean honestly, what the fukk has Dany done to incite such distrust in Varys to the point where he’s OPENLY (which is stupid as fukk) speaking of having Dany “removed” in favor of Jon? I’m a Jon fan, but this “the person who DOESN’T want the throne is best to rule” edict is complete and utter bullshyt.

You know who ELSE didn’t really want the throne? ROBERT fukkING BARATHEON! And look how he turned the seven kingdoms to horse shyt. He was so depressed from ruling that he sank into whoring and drinking himself into a stupor while his wife fukked her brother and he basically indebted the realm to Twyin Lannister.

Jon is a soldier, a good man, and a decent leader. But he’s no King. And he’s no King because he specifically has a distaste for dishonesty and shrewd behavior. Those are two things any ruler MUST be willing to embrace in order to be successful (at least initially). Sansa doesn’t care about Jon or her family (and ANYONE who argues differently either hasn’t been watching the series from the beginning or simply has a blind hard on for redheaded white women) Sansa cares about herself and those whom she can manipulate. She feels as if she can MANIPULATE Jon (as she did leading up the Battle Of The b*stards) into making the North independent (with her a Warden) so she’s “backing” him as potential ruler. Dany can see that shyt a mile away. So again, she was RIGHT in asking Jon to keep that Aegon shyt to himself.

Sam told Jon he sacrificed his crown to Dany for the good of the people and would she do the same? Dany has already sacrificed her entire army and two dragons for the good of the people. Jon has rejected the crown to her FACE now at least three times. What else is she supposed to do? There comes a time when proving yourself isn’t necessary and ACTION becomes so. Thats why its called SHOW and prove.


The Show-Runners have taken all logic out of the show and replaced it with spectacle. Varys should be MUCH smarter than to admit to Tyrion, the muthafukking HAND OF THE QUEEN, that he’s concocting plans to have Dany deposed. Varys should also know, for all his scheming, what kind of person she is. Her entire psyche is based upon her messianic qualities. The fact that that she gave “birth” to three dragons for the first time in centuries. He KNEW this going in and now wants to question the very basis of why Dany believes in her right to rule? Horrible writing.


Varys saying Jon is to weak for Dany and would let her ride roughshod over him, and then saying Jon would be a good ruler when we know it’d probably end up in a situation where he’d be manipulated by advisors such as Tyrion and Varys is so reductive man. Lmao. D&D can’t even get their political intrigue angles right. shyt is a mess.

Varys and Tyrion holding themselves as the moral compass of Westeros is also hilarious. Varys was subservient to the Mad King (at least on the show, not sure about the books, I know he’s a snake in the books as well) and Tyrion has committed heinous crimes with Wildfire in War and has been for the most part since season 4 a failure of an advisor.

They’ve all failed her. It’s the only action Dany has left. Hate D&Ds infatuation with Cersei. Hate how they’ve made Dany weak just so their favourite character can compete.
 
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