MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
Yo, all this tension has me 
So much shyt is gonna go down.
I’m not ready for these last 2 eps.
So much shyt is gonna go down.
I’m not ready for these last 2 eps.
OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19
- Thread starter Jax
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Sansa is a bytch.
Crazy Dany is kinda cute.
Hope she burns that entire shyt down.
Cersei I hope dies a painful death.
Next ep gonna be
Crazy Dany is kinda cute.
Hope she burns that entire shyt down.Cersei I hope dies a painful death.
Next ep gonna be
then why not just let someone else do their part while they go work on whatever project they rather be doing. What contract did this fool GRRM and HBO sign with these two lazy fukks that they have so much clout over one of the greatest TV show ever made?
Foxmulder
Superstar
Yeah tell me about those decade long winters that we experience in New York.
Redguard
Hoonding
HBO should have gave D&D the
and find new writers if they didn't want to do 10 seasons and focus on some racist shyt like the Confederates.Biscayne
Ocean air
"For the good of the realm" seems to be running gag at this point. Varys having intel and secrets has done nothing "particularly" good for the realm. Varys turning his back on Dany as quickly as he did, was unjust. Her actions haven't shown she wasn't to be trusted for Varys to plot and scheme as quickly as he's doing. Sansa is a smart character. But her whole angle in this instance is also confusing, given Dany hasn't done anything in particular to this point to garner this treatment. Why sansa would divulge private info, knowing it will cause dissention? It's a mystery. Seems like the writers are all setting up this Mad Queen narrative by trying to give Dany a reason to become the Mad Queen. But doing it as quickly and sloppily as possible.
Black Nate Grey
The God Emperor of Mankind
Varys is top 3 smartest, objective, rational people in the show's history along with Tyrion and Tywin. Difference is Varys and Tyrion are also tempered with compassion.
Varys of all people should be able to discern whether or not someone will be good for the people. She's volatile, impulsive and reacts terribly to being questioned or opposing opinions, she won't even take time to consider them, they have to be forced upon her for her to relent. This is her from Day fukking One. All of this before the bullshyt that's happened on Westeros. These character traits compounded with the fact she's lost two of three of her 'children', her closest friends (Jorah and Mixed-girl), found out the man she loves is related to her and has a stronger claim to the throne and is more beloved in Westeros and she is willing to slaughter hundreds of thousands to kill Cersei make her extremely fukking dangerous. Anyone with a brain can see this. Are they writing her this way? Undoubtedly. Even still, based on all evidence, it's absolutely the correct objective conclusion to arrive at.
Sansa's priority is to keep the North independent. Again she's a Littlefinger University Cum Laude Graduate, any weapon she can use to delegitimize Danerys claim or rule is one she will use.
Daenerys will not let the North go. You realize this right? There is no way this happens. She will start a war with the North, because her ego is going to tell her she deserves to rule all 7 kingdoms. She's almost incapable of compromise. Sansa knows this.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Maybe he ain’t believe in Ned 
And what stuff about dany? Are we really going to ignore what the show has done to her and how people are responding, whether you personal,y feel she’s mad or not, people question her ability to rule justly.
And for the 4th time, you seem to have wanted him to overthrow some shyt with no one to put on place...wtf
You got it breh...I’m too tired to go back and forth over this any longer. I don’t agree with you...that’s all
And what stuff about dany? Are we really going to ignore what the show has done to her and how people are responding, whether you personal,y feel she’s mad or not, people question her ability to rule justly.
And for the 4th time, you seem to have wanted him to overthrow some shyt with no one to put on place...wtf
You got it breh...I’m too tired to go back and forth over this any longer. I don’t agree with you...that’s all
I’m bringing up I read the books because for your last 2 posts you’re attempting to give me a rundown on shyt from season 1 that’s common knowledge right now. Spare me that. I already know the Illyrio/Varys/Targaryen plot.
He could’ve easily backed Ned on the council if he was truly about the realm. But he didn’t. Again out of Varys own mouth he’s not loyal to anyone but the people. He don’t care about Dany.
My beef is that (for the 4th time) Varys is full of shyt. If he was so concerned about the realm Cersei would be gone long ago. If u want to use the “what could he have done in Essos” argument then my rebuttal is well what did he do about the Lannisters when he was in KL?
What things have disturbed him from Dany? Dany came thru with her dragons and army and was a major catalyst in the victory against the White Walkers and she seems perturbed that Jon is getting the accolades while her contributions are a footnote. That’s disturbing? Ungrateful Sansa still doesn’t trust her after sacrificing so much and a co-sign from Jon/Aegon. Dany even toasted up to Arya and called her the hero of Winterfell at the banquet in the last episode. I get it the writers are trying to make her out as a mad queen but I don’t see it. She lost 2 dragons and her closest advisor fukking around with the North (listening to Varys and Tyrion).
I don’t know if he gets credit for that meeting. But if u want to give it to him, what came of it? Olenna told Dany to stop listening to Tyrion/Varys and “Be a dragon”. And if Dany would’ve listened to her instead of Varys/Tyrion she’d be on the Iron Throne right now.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Show runners want to move on...actors are aging
Not sure if it’s ever been confirmed, but I keep seeing ppl saying the show runners and grrm don’t have a great relationship anymore due to him not finishing the books, and I could see that, I do give them a break because they didn’t sign up to write grrm’s story, they’re not equipped to, as we’ve seen the past few seasons. They wanted to do an adaptation, and other than dorne, they nailed doing an adaptation in seasons 1-5 and certain storylines in 6. I don’t think they’re enjoying having to carry so much of the load on this with no books
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Forgot about this...would have loved 10 seasons but shyt, even 8 full seasons would’ve helped A LOT
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
WE SAW KINGS LANDING IN EP 1....
WEEKS AFTER IT BEGAN SNOWING
PRIOR TO THE WAR AT WINTERFELL.
YOU SHOULDNT BE POSTING IN HERE
IF YOURE MISSING BLATANT shyt LIKE THAT.
WE SAW KINGS LANDING IN EP 1....
WEEKS AFTER IT BEGAN SNOWING
PRIOR TO THE WAR AT WINTERFELL.
YOU SHOULDNT BE POSTING IN HERE
IF YOURE MISSING BLATANT shyt LIKE THAT.
Everyone other than Oleanna told her that she couldn't just attack KL. Oleanna was setting her up for the okie-doke.
She was an outsider to Westeros. She had 0 allies, an army composed of "savages" and the Unsullied, and dragons that haven't been seen in centuries. The only 2 people on her team that knew Westeros were exiled traitors. Once she attacked KL, she would have no kingdom to rule, since the people would turn on her, and every other kingdom would come for her head. She is, afterall, kin to the Mad King.
sansa like the rest of the stark kids is fukked up. after dealing with psychopaths like ramsey and joffrey, and two faced liars like littlefinger, she cant trust anyone, which is proven by the fact that she went telling jons secret no time after hearing it. its also probably that dany is a targaryen, and her brash attitude hasnt helped with the west opinion of them
Biscayne
Ocean air
All of this is forced and shoddily done. The very reason they got rid of the NK was to focus on this human based conflict and to expediate the Mad Queen narrative. Varys angle and Sansa's angle makes no sense considering Dany has constantly relented and acquiesced to her councils will at every turn. Just because Dany had to be poked and prodded to these ideas, doesn't mean she needs to be so hastily plotted against and eradicated while there's a current "Mad Queen" sitting the throne. One Queen wants to eradicate the Starks, while the other queen is still playing the ally role and is in love with someone who is part Stark. Spreading Jon's secret after Jon made them promise(before a heart tree) not to spread this secret, is a flaw in Sansa..
Because we've been bombarded with Mad Queen narratives, we've been made to view Dany through that lens while we're to believe Vary's motives are pure without questioning it. Sansa's a little finger scholar, but in the end Little Finger's "Chaos Is A Latter" curriculum only works if you're looking out for self. He taught her to mistrust ppl, but is she mistrusting the right people? What is best for the realm? Tyrion, Varys, Jon, have all collectively failed. Dany's council has failed at every turn and now Dany's impuslivness is supposed to be the greateast threat to Westeros and not their terrible council? Why can't Sansa and the rest just go along with their living ally until she proves she's mad? Who else does Varys have in mind to sit the throne? Is there someone out there who wants to rule who we don't know about? The realm has had a Mad King/Mad Queen/Mad Boy King under Varys watch.
Over and over in this series, we've seen the power next to the power have an influence on which direction the power goes. This is another case of those thinking they know what's best for the realm, contributing to the vary Chaos they want to rid the realm of.
They forced the hell out of "Impulsive Dany" this last episode. Writers wanted a dramatic hostage holding of missandei just to force Dany into this "Shall I sack the city or shall I spare them" narrative.
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