Official FS1 Undisputed Thread

[Legal]

Dunno why Shannon does this show anymore. Formula been stale and his own podcast has actually started to hit a good stride. I understand after he got let go by CBS he probably needed Skip, but he's definitely big enough in his own right now to do his own thing and stop subjecting himself to this.

It's way harder for talent to get out of a contract than the employer. And even if it wasn't, he still needs to be careful with how he exits, since black talent gets the "hard to work with" label super quick.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You didn't call him trash lol. You weird bro

So you’re gonna tell me that I agreed with his position?

 

[28 Gramz]

Dunno why Shannon does this show anymore. Formula been stale and his own podcast has actually started to hit a good stride. I understand after he got let go by CBS he probably needed Skip, but he's definitely big enough in his own right now to do his own thing and stop subjecting himself to this.

Agree 100%.

If they split up and started their own debate shows with new co-hosts I have no doubt that Shannon's show would do better than Skips, he's been burnt out for a good 3 years now.

 

[FlyBoy718]

Black folks don’t use the term race card to denigrate other black folks. Some of you dudes are full-blown clowns. I don’t do fake empathy for black bodies in crisis. That’s what Skip did. He has never shown or exhibited a sliver of caring for another human beings pain. That is is his history. And cacs long have that history. He quickly gave a fake prayer to say everything else was irrelevant and in the same breath said things were relevant minutes later. Black bodies are often used in that manner. Sorry dunderhead. You as a black man (doubt it) lack depth and want folks to be a simple as you

That's exactly what you're doing though. Chances are you would have been unable to identify Damar Hamlin if he were standing behind you at Walmart before this play. But the fact that a self-admitted troll posed a valid question (which millions of other people were thinking) has you out if sorts. Waiting until Wednesday or Thursday to talk about the ramifications of the game being cancelled would do absolutely nothing to better that player's chances of recovering from a terrible injury.

Any Black person in America that gives validity to the concept of "playing the race card" is an idiot


Everything is about race in America it is always a sub theme in the back ground.

I don't exactly disagree with you in a macro sense about your last point. But please illustrate how that racial dynamic is at play regarding this SPECIFIC situation? A white commentator is getting dragged online for an insensitive tweet related to a Black player dying on the field( before being resuscitated). How is the Black man a victim of racism here? Are you inferring that if a white player suffered the same injury, that Skip wouldn't have made the same tweet? If so, what proof do you have of this besides Coli militancy? Fact is you don't have any proof. The irony in your post is that Black folks (especially Black men) will be the #1 victims of this cancel culture mentality that has become so pervasive in American society.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

It's way harder for talent to get out of a contract than the employer. And even if it wasn't, he still needs to be careful with how he exits, since black talent gets the "hard to work with" label super quick.

Not to mention the fact that a lot of those FS1 talent enjoy living on the West Coast, which they don’t want to give up and go elsewhere.

I’m sure Skip wouldn’t mind anyways if Shannon got replaced considering the fact that he already tried to do it last year when he wanted to work with SAS.

 

[NYC Rebel]

That's exactly what you're doing though. Chances are you would have been unable to identify Damar Hamlin if he were standing behind you at Walmart before this play. But the fact that a self-admitted troll posed a valid question (which millions of other people were thinking) has you out if sorts. Waiting until Wednesday or Thursday to talk about the ramifications of the game being cancelled would do absolutely nothing to better that player's chances of recovering from a terrible injury.

I don't exactly disagree with you in a macro sense about your last point. But please illustrate how that racial dynamic is at play regarding this SPECIFIC situation? A white commentator is getting dragged online for an insensitive tweet related to a Black player dying on the field( before being resuscitated). How is the Black man a victim of racism here? Are you inferring that if a white player suffered the same injury, that Skip wouldn't have made the same tweet? If so, what proof do you have of this besides Coli militancy? Fact is you don't have any proof. The irony in your post is that Black folks (especially Black men) will be the #1 victims of this cancel culture mentality that has become so pervasive in American society.

So I have to be able to identify a black man in order to have concern for him, therefore, not knowing how he looks I’m disqualified from having genuine empathy for him? That’s what you’re saying, right?

 

[FlyBoy718]

So I have to be able to identify a black man in order to have concern for him, therefore, not knowing how he looks I’m disqualified from having genuine empathy for him? That’s what you’re saying, right?

Not at all my man. I don't know anyone who didn't display empathy for the situation he was in. You stated that Skip's empathy was fake and you're entitled to that opinion. You have shown you lack the ability to compartmentalize however. I respect the fact that Skip posed a question plenty of people had on their mind as well. Your empathy and concern has done nothing to help Damar Hamlin's health or reassure his family and friends during this situation. It's the epitome of faux outrage/concern.

 

[Legal]

Not to mention the fact that a lot of those FS1 talent enjoy living on the West Coast, which they don’t want to give up and go elsewhere.

I’m sure Skip wouldn’t mind anyways if Shannon got replaced considering the fact that he already tried to do it last year when he wanted to work with SAS.

Yeah, the only thing that kept him from linking up with Stephen A again was that Fox dropped a huge bag on Skip, and ESPN played value with just doing Stephen A vs a rotating chair.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Not at all my man. I don't know anyone who didn't display empathy for the situation he was in. You stated that Skip's empathy was fake and you're entitled to that opinion. You have shown you lack the ability to compartmentalize however. I respect the fact that Skip posed a question plenty of people had on their mind as well. Your empathy and concern has done nothing to help Damar Hamlin's health or reassure his family and friends during this situation. It's the epitome of faux outrage.

That’s pretty much what you said. I cant identify him in a Walmart, therefore (fill in blank with your bullshyt)________.”

Sorry… Some people just aren’t cool with someone with a fake history of empathy saying everything is irrelevant to five minutes later saying how it is relevant to football. Especially when theres a long history of black bodies being moved on quickly. And you have a problem with people who point that out as being trash and the black component being identified as part of the reason

 

[Diondon]

SHannon wasn't there?

 

[winb83]

That's exactly what you're doing though. Chances are you would have been unable to identify Damar Hamlin if he were standing behind you at Walmart before this play. But the fact that a self-admitted troll posed a valid question (which millions of other people were thinking) has you out if sorts. Waiting until Wednesday or Thursday to talk about the ramifications of the game being cancelled would do absolutely nothing to better that player's chances of recovering from a terrible injury.

It's the cognitive dissonance of being confronted with that man's health being put in jeopardy by the same game that entertains people that causes this.

Basic human decency demands people say something about this but deep down they have no issue being entertained by the same violent game that caused it.

Just as long as they don't have to see the immediate consequences of the violent game they enjoy impact a human life people can easily go on enjoying that which caused it. Out of sight and out of mind. Just don't make me confront directly that which I enjoy is fundamentally wrong. Let me just sit back and enjoy it and other people can deal with the long term fallout of it.

That's why it's all hypocrisy. People who deep down don't care condemn others who don't care and pat themselves on the back because doing so makes them feel like they care.

How many people watched that play and said I can't support this sport anymore and how many people watched and deep down thought that's tragic but can't wait for next week's games to see who gets in the playoffs and this will be sorted out by then.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Once I started telecommuting, Undisputed was my go-to morning show. Recently, I find myself either listening to The Ticket in Dallas or watching SAS and em.

Shannon is very entertaining and insightful but he knows how to "break character."

John Edward Bayless Jr., can't separate hot takes from real shyt. Dallas folks and Aikman told y'all about this dude. Been a problem for 30+ years. There's a reason Curt Menefee from FOX NFL Sunday gets invited back on local Dallas radio (Ticket) and Skip doesn't despite being on there back in the day.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Yeah, the only thing that kept him from linking up with Stephen A again was that Fox dropped a huge bag on Skip, and ESPN played value with just doing Stephen A vs a rotating chair.

A lot of people overlooked it at the time with vocal and open SAS was about not rocking with Max, but I’m sure Shannon had to feel some type of way about it even if it was business. I would imagine that they’ll eventually do cross promotion on each others podcast.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Once I started telecommuting, Undisputed was my go-to morning show. Recently, I find myself either listening to The Ticket in Dallas or watching SAS and em.

Shannon is very entertaining and insightful but he knows how to "break character."

John Edward Bayless Jr., can't separate hot takes from real shyt. Dallas folks and Aikman told y'all about this dude. Been a problem for 30+ years. There's a reason Curt Menefee from FOX NFL Sunday gets invited back on local Dallas radio (Ticket) and Skip doesn't despite being on there back in the day.

He’s been in character for so long that it’s become who he actually is now as a person. Reminds me of someone like Hulk Hogan.

 

[NYC Rebel]

It's the cognitive dissonance of being confronted with that man's health being put in jeopardy by the same game that entertains people that causes this.

Basic human decency demands people say something about this but deep down they have no issue being entertained by the same violent game that caused it.

Just as long as they don't have to see the immediate consequences of the violent game they enjoy impact a human life people can easily go on enjoying that which caused it. Out of sight and out of mind. Just don't make me confront directly that which I enjoy is fundamentally wrong. Let me just sit back and enjoy it and other people can deal with the long term fallout of it.

That's why it's all hypocrisy. People who deep down don't care condemn others who don't care and pat themselves on the back because doing so makes them feel like they care.

How many people watched that play and said I can't support this sport anymore and how many people watched and deep down thought that's tragic but can't wait for next week's games to see who gets in the playoffs and this will be sorted out by then.

So for you it’s not about skip, it’s questioning about the value of the game for people? Isn’t that a pivot away from the discussion around skip and his 1 minute show of fake prayer yesterday?

Yall some goalpost moving mofos in here