Official fight thread for GGG vs Lemieux: Oct 17 HBO PPV

[GREENandYELLOW]

He needs to move up. Let's say he unifies the division....then what? That's only 2 fights away after the 17th. He has 0 competition at Middleweight. Usually when that is the case, Boxing fans clamor for you to move up (nikkas was begging Floyd to move all the way up to 154). When is it going to be said GGG should move up? He's already had MORE middleweight fights than B Hop had

He should be at 168 and looking for new challenges. The 168 Division is better anyways...instead he's down at 160, with no intentions of moving up, fighting on PPV as a 20/1 favorite over a "limited fighter when his power doesnt bail him out with a suspect as hell chin" in unification bouts. That's not competition.

Since when do Champions face other Champions...and open up as a 20/1 favorite

AB was only allowed 2 fights at Lightweight before nikkas was harassing him to move up

GGG is already about to have his 34th Middleweight bout....and isnt considering a move at all.

For the record I didnt have an issue with Broner being a lightweight. He wasnt there long and i expected him to be there longer. Unfortunately at the time the division was real thin. I remember when he moved up to WW, i felt because he was moving up two divisions. I dont care what division you fight at, two divisions is a big risk that you had better know you are prepared for it. Add to that 147 was probably the toughest division in boxing. Props to him for trying.

GGG's situation is different. He didnt gain any popularity or traction in the U.S. until recently. He initially tried to get a big European fight vs. Sturm, but Sturm ducked.
The last few years have been spent fighting the quality 160 lb'ers i mentioned and building his popularity.

I think the opposite could be argued in that he has more work to do at 160 to cement a long term legacy in that division. I think fights vs. Lemieux, Lee, and Cotto/Canelo, and if Quillin/Jacobs is possible all do nothing but help, not hurt him.

He has been at 160 since the amateurs and you have seen the videos of him training (he just weighed 165, 30 days out) so i think 160is clearly his natural weight class and he doesnt struggle to make it. I dont think he should move to 168 full time, but the idea of moving up in weight for the right fight should be considered a possibilty.

 

[Newzz]

Breh just say u don't like GGG cuz he didn't move up to 168 to fight ward just to make u happy.

At the moment he is fighting a good opponent and is looking like a nice pay day and after that is looking at getting the biggest pay day of his life but u want him to throw all that away to fight Andre ward

And u know boxing and I'm sure u know that he indeed has some good fights ahead of him... People just hate him cuz they tired of seeing him win.

The hell Ward gotta do with the fact GGG doesn't have competition at Middleweight?

This is about the fact there is a PPV next Saturday, where 1 Champion is 20/1 favorite over the other in the main event.

Take off your GGG shades and admit it's not a good matchup, because it's not. GGG doesn't have competition at 160, because he's much better than the rest of them. GGG has already fought 33 fights as a Middleweight and NO ONE has been able to hang with him...that means it's time to move up like every other dominant fighter has down in their careers

Hell, even Holyfield moved up to Heavyweight because of how dominant he was at Cruiserweight.

You gotta be kidding me breh

 

[krackdagawd]

Rubio was a 162-1 underdog omg this could be FOTY

Rubios very next fight why is he on TV



GGG Stans y'all

nikkas become super Saiyans when they sign that contract and become yamcha post fight.

But the nikkas calling them yamcha before n after are the haters

You can't make this shyt up.

 

[GzUp]

The hell Ward gotta do with the fact GGG doesn't have competition at Middleweight?

This is about the fact there is a PPV next Saturday, where 1 Champion is 20/1 favorite over the other in the main event.

Take off your GGG shades and admit it's not a good matchup, because it's not. GGG doesn't have competition at 160, because he's much better than the rest of them. GGG has already fought 33 fights as a Middleweight and NO ONE has been able to hang with him...that means it's time to move up like every other dominant fighter has down in their careers

Hell, even Holyfield moved up to Heavyweight because of how dominant he was at Cruiserweight.

You gotta be kidding me breh

Can GGG clean out his division?... Can he have that accomplishment?... Can he get good paydays out of it?

Can he fight Daniel Jacobs, Peter Quillin and Jermall Charlo?... u may think GGG is so good that these cats have no chance but some people here think some of them can beat GGG.

Its your opinion if you dont think its a good match up. the guy hes facing is no sloutch and if u been watching his fights he has looked good, he can probably beat anyone in the division besides GGG. ... if GGG is that good that he is making him look that weak then it is what it is, he is in his way to clean out the division.

Once he cleans out the division we can talk about him moving up.

 

[Newzz]

For the record I didnt have an issue with Broner being a lightweight. He wasnt there long and i expected him to be there longer. Unfortunately at the time the division was real thin. I remember when he moved up to WW, i felt because he was moving up two divisions. I dont care what division you fight at, two divisions is a big risk that you had better know you are prepared for it. Add to that 147 was probably the toughest division in boxing. Props to him for trying.

GGG's situation is different. He didnt gain any popularity or traction in the U.S. until recently. He initially tried to get a big European fight vs. Sturm, but Sturm ducked.
The last few years have been spent fighting the quality 160 lb'ers i mentioned and building his popularity.

I think the opposite could be argued in that he has more work to do at 160 to cement a long term legacy in that division. I think fights vs. Lemieux, Lee, and Cotto/Canelo, and if Quillin/Jacobs is possible all do nothing but help, not hurt him.

He has been at 160 since the amateurs and you have seen the videos of him training (he just weighed 165, 30 days out) so i think 160is clearly his natural weight class and he doesnt struggle to make it. I dont think he should move to 168 full time, but the idea of moving up in weight for the right fight should be considered a possibilty.

Im saying cool...let him fight Lemieux, winner of Canelo/Cotto, and Lee. After that though, he needs to go. Especially if he KOs or UDs all of em.

There is no one at Middleweight I can say I see GGG losing to, so with that being known, and there's a division right above him, why not beg to see GGG vs Abraham/DeGale/Ramirez/Groves/Chudinov? They are bigger and may be able to deal with his punches better...which in turn gives better fights.

I don't understand how people are dying to see Cotto/Canelo vs the larger GGG, but don't want to know how GGG would fare against bigger fighters himself.

 

[Newzz]

Can GGG clean out his division?... Can he have that accomplishment?... Can he get good paydays out of it?

Now if Ward said this same thing
If Floyd wouldve said this same thing about
If Roy Jones Jr would've said this same thing

Can he fight Daniel Jacobs, Peter Quillin and Jermall Charlo?... u may think GGG is so good that these cats have no chance but some people here think some of them can beat GGG.

They are Haymon fighters, he is an HBO fighter. It won't be able to happen.

Its your opinion if you dont think its a good match up. the guy hes facing is no sloutch and if u been watching his fights he has looked good, he can probably beat anyone in the division besides GGG

Are you sure you're talking about the same David Lemieux I'm talking about?

. ... if GGG is that good that he is making him look that weak then it is what it is, he is in his way to clean out the division.

Once he cleans out the division we can talk about him moving up.

That's 2 fights from next Saturday.

 

[krackdagawd]

Now if Ward said this same thing
If Floyd wouldve said this same thing about
If Roy Jones Jr would've said this same thing



They are Haymon fighters, he is an HBO fighter. It won't be able to happen.



Are you sure you're talking about the same David Lemieux I'm talking about?




That's 2 fights from next Saturday.

He can fight Haymon fighters he called out Floyd because hbo approved Lara.

 

[Newzz]

He can fight Haymon fighters he called out Floyd because hbo approved Lara.

Even makes it worse then

 

[GzUp]

Now if Ward said this same thing
If Floyd wouldve said this same thing about
If Roy Jones Jr would've said this same thing



They are Haymon fighters, he is an HBO fighter. It won't be able to happen.



Are you sure you're talking about the same David Lemieux I'm talking about?




That's 2 fights from next Saturday.

David is a solid fighter, great power... suspect chin but he is a legit threat.

Ward, Floyd, JOnes couldnt were not able to clean out there divisions?

i mean GGG doesnt even have the wbc belt... i agree that he shouldnt have to go through cotto or canelo to get the belt cuz they small but hey that got the belt and he wants it, the plus side to it is he getting a huge payday to get it... this is prize fighting, u dont leave money on the table like that.

after that is lee i think... once thats a wrap then we can criticize him if hes not going to move up

edit: krack siad he can fight those haymon fighters and i think it would be good fights before moving up.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Im saying cool...let him fight Lemieux, winner of Canelo/Cotto, and Lee. After that though, he needs to go. Especially if he KOs or UDs all of em.

There is no one at Middleweight I can say I see GGG losing to, so with that being known, and there's a division right above him, why not beg to see GGG vs Abraham/DeGale/Ramirez/Groves/Chudinov? They are bigger and may be able to deal with his punches better...which in turn gives better fights.

I don't understand how people are dying to see Cotto/Canelo vs the larger GGG, but don't want to know how GGG would fare against bigger fighters himself.

I agree that long term GGG will probably be faced with moving up and it being in his best interest. To me, maybe in a couple years when his age slows him down.

But he has a few top quality fights at 160 that people can't hate on.
Cotto I agree is smaller than GGG, but I bet walking around weight, Canelo and GGG are basically the same (and arent you on record saying you think Canelo beats GGG?) Word has been that eventually Canelo will be at 160 full time. So I don't consider that a size mismatch.

When I see GGG in the ring or sparring, he seems closer in size to 154 lb'ers, in fact I think there are some that are bigger than him.

But as you said, if he takes care of business like most expect him to vs. these top guys, then eventually 168 is where the next step will be.

 

[Newzz]

I agree that long term GGG will probably be faced with moving up and it being in his best interest. To me, maybe in a couple years when his age slows him down.

But he has a few top quality fights at 160 that people can't hate on.
Cotto I agree is smaller than GGG, but I bet walking around weight, Canelo and GGG are basically the same (and arent you on record saying you think Canelo beats GGG?) Word has been that eventually Canelo will be at 160 full time. So I don't consider that a size mismatch.

When I see GGG in the ring or sparring, he seems closer in size to 154 lb'ers, in fact I think there are some that are bigger than him.

But as you said, if he takes care of business like most expect him to vs. these top guys, then eventually 168 is where the next step will be.

What kind of stan would I be if I said Canelo loses?

Anyways, we'll just have to see what happens, but I don't see GGG losing or having any close fights at Middleweight (to any real Middleweights...Canelo beats him).

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

What kind of stan would I be if I said Canelo loses?

Anyways, we'll just have to see what happens, but I don't see GGG losing or having any close fights at Middleweight (to any real Middleweights...Canelo beats him).

I hope we meet soon. #GGGoodBoys vs. #CaneloCartel .

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Kazahks hero slip sliding around the 160 ish
American hero ward goes from promoter hell, returns to prestige, is attempting to move up in weight to face local boogeyman KKK

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

Can GGG clean out his division?... Can he have that accomplishment?... Can he get good paydays out of it?

Can he fight Daniel Jacobs, Peter Quillin and Jermall Charlo?... u may think GGG is so good that these cats have no chance but some people here think some of them can beat GGG.

Its your opinion if you dont think its a good match up. the guy hes facing is no sloutch and if u been watching his fights he has looked good, he can probably beat anyone in the division besides GGG. ... if GGG is that good that he is making him look that weak then it is what it is, he is in his way to clean out the division.

Once he cleans out the division we can talk about him moving up.

this what i don't understand.... THERE IS MONEY AT MIDDLEWEIGHT... canelo.. HUGE MONEY... cotto next huge money... VS. andy lee.. it would sell out the garden like he did now..

HE SOLD OUT THE GARDEN IN 5 FREAKING DAYS.. loll... wtf...

they put ggg at staples and he sells out there... guaranteed..

the fukk is triple g gonna go fight andre ward who's struggling to get on undercards of exciting fights...lol

man.. its his division..why ppl bytching about him moving up in weight.. its not like he's's going up to 168 to fight bums.. he prob wants to but as long as he staying at 160.. whats the prob

its when you go up to another division and don't want to fight the best there.. then thats the problem...let ggg go to 168 and fight bums and avoid ward then get mad at him

and chocaliitio is even bigger odds to beat up villora.. but guess what.. villiora aint going no where and they basically gonna duke it out for however many rounds it lasts...

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

The hell Ward gotta do with the fact GGG doesn't have competition at Middleweight?

This is about the fact there is a PPV next Saturday, where 1 Champion is 20/1 favorite over the other in the main event.

Take off your GGG shades and admit it's not a good matchup, because it's not. GGG doesn't have competition at 160, because he's much better than the rest of them. GGG has already fought 33 fights as a Middleweight and NO ONE has been able to hang with him...that means it's time to move up like every other dominant fighter has down in their careers

Hell, even Holyfield moved up to Heavyweight because of how dominant he was at Cruiserweight.

You gotta be kidding me breh

I'm pretty sure holyfield moved up in weight for one thing.... MONEY... THE MONEY WAS AT HEAVY... come on..

why you think floyd moved up to 147... MONEY....

now where do you think the money is for ggg... at middle or at super middle... lets all confess that CANELO is the grand prize here... the same guy thats heading a card that wards lucky to fight under.

its not his fault canelo and cotto want to fight for the 160 lineal champ at 156lbs.. but ggg fights those guys back to back in between some cans.. thats fine..

he aint going up to 168 and fighting bums.. he's cleaning out his division.. and HIS DIVISION HAS MONEY IN IT..

did i mention he practically sold out the garden in 5 days.. lol