Official fight thread for GGG vs Lemieux: Oct 17 HBO PPV

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TheNig said:
How can nikkas not see this shyt gone be fun to watch bruh?
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Nobody is saying it's not we're saying this isn't a ppv fight and Lemieux is full of struggle. Shookboys was agreeing with us on Lemiuex until he signed to face ggg. They did it with Gaele/Monroe/Rubio and they doing it here. I saw a gang of post calling these dudes good fighters but for some reason I haven't seen these posts after they faced him. :patrice:
 
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@Newzz, I get what you are saying. No probs. What I think people are not talking about is that HBO wants to build GGG into a PPV attraction. So when do you do that? They made a business decision to capitalize on GGG's popularity and see if they can make it successful.

If GGG waited for the true PPV fight, he would have had to wait for Canelo or Cotto...and who know if/when that would have happened. Plus GGG would have been a serious "B" side in that fight. This way if one of them ends up fighting GGG he continues to build his popularity and it only helps the hype if GGG fights either one.

One of the reasons GGG-Ward was never feasible is it wouldn't generate enough money to satisfy both fighters. Neither had a PPV history. GGG can start to build his and with a relatively low overhead. Word is this fight needs 150k buys to break even.

And GGG's team made it clear that their sole goal was to unify 160, since other fights fell through (JCC, Ward, Froch). They set themselves to be the absolute mandatory for Canelo-Cotto, Lee wants to fight GGG, and they got the Lemieux fight. Seems like their plan is working.

Ward disagrees...but GGG's team just came out and said that Ward wanted more than 50/50 in negotiations (never specified if it was money or weight) and when GGG signed to fight Lemieux, Ward then came back and was close to GGG's offer, and said they turned him down. GGG's team says they have the emails to prove it was after GGG-Lemieux was already signed...Dan Rafael said as much in his chats as well.

#GGGoodBoys, getting our first headline PPV and going for middleweight glory. :banderas:
 
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krackdagawd said:
Nobody is saying it's not we're saying this isn't a ppv fight and Lemieux is full of struggle. Shookboys was agreeing with us on Lemiuex until he signed to face ggg. They did it with Gaele/Monroe/Rubio and they doing it here. I saw a gang of post calling these dudes good fighters but for some reason I haven't seen these posts after they faced him. :patrice:
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I dont remember any regulars calling GGG's opponents some A level great opponent.
I have always felt the tone to be more that GGG is fighting the best guys at 160 who were available to him since debuting on HBO. The MW division isnt loaded with A list guys like other divisions, but it does have plenty of quality fighters. Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Geale, Lemieux, etc. are all quality fighters. And the better fights are being lined up. Lee wants to fight, he is the mandatory for Canelo-Cotto, and i believe there is a mandatory situation with the winner of Jacobs-Quillin (understandably could be difficult to make).

I think the people who over-hype the GGG train tend to be the casuals.

To counter, i also dont think i have ever seen a good argument of what GGG could be doing at 160 that is far better than what he has done so far. He is at 160 and wants to unify 160. Seems to me he has done just about everything anyone could expect. The people who jump in and hype it up being something different arent the real fans (see Floyd and Manny), they are just on the bandwagon while it is still hot.
 
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The hate u guys give GGG is ridiculous... All he's done is fight the best in his division, knockout everyone and people just want to slander the man :snoop:
 
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GREENandYELLOW said:
I dont remember any regulars calling GGG's opponents some A level great opponent.
I have always felt the tone to be more that GGG is fighting the best guys at 160 who were available to him since debuting on HBO. The MW division isnt loaded with A list guys like other divisions, but it does have plenty of quality fighters. Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Geale, Lemieux, etc. are all quality fighters. And the better fights are being lined up. Lee wants to fight, he is the mandatory for Canelo-Cotto, and i believe there is a mandatory situation with the winner of Jacobs-Quillin (understandably could be difficult to make).

I think the people who over-hype the GGG train tend to be the casuals.

To counter, i also dont think i have ever seen a good argument of what GGG could be doing at 160 that is far better than what he has done so far. He is at 160 and wants to unify 160. Seems to me he has done just about everything anyone could expect. The people who jump in and hype it up being something different arent the real fans (see Floyd and Manny), they are just on the bandwagon while it is still hot.
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GzUpHoEzDwN said:
The hate u guys give GGG is ridiculous... All he's done is fight the best in his division, knockout everyone and people just want to slander the man :snoop:
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He needs to move up. Let's say he unifies the division....then what? That's only 2 fights away after the 17th. He has 0 competition at Middleweight. Usually when that is the case, Boxing fans clamor for you to move up (nikkas was begging Floyd to move all the way up to 154). When is it going to be said GGG should move up? He's already had MORE middleweight fights than B Hop had:dead:

He should be at 168 and looking for new challenges. The 168 Division is better anyways...instead he's down at 160, with no intentions of moving up, fighting on PPV as a 20/1 favorite over a "limited fighter when his power doesnt bail him out with a suspect as hell chin" in unification bouts. That's not competition. :comeon:

Since when do Champions face other Champions...and open up as a 20/1 favorite:usure:

AB was only allowed 2 fights at Lightweight before nikkas was harassing him to move up:dead:

GGG is already about to have his 34th Middleweight bout....and isnt considering a move at all.:wow:
 
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Newzz said:
He needs to move up. Let's say he unifies the division....then what? That's only 2 fights away after the 17th. He has 0 competition at Middleweight. Usually when that is the case, Boxing fans clamor for you to move up (nikkas was begging Floyd to move all the way up to 154). When is it going to be said GGG should move up? He's already had MORE middleweight fights than B Hop had:dead:

He should be at 168 and looking for new challenges. The 168 Division is better anyways...instead he's down at 160, with no intentions of moving up, fighting on PPV as a 20/1 favorite over a "limited fighter when his power doesnt bail him out with a suspect as hell chin" in unification bouts.

AB was only allowed 2 fights at Lightweight before nikkas was harassing him to move up:dead:
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Breh just say u don't like GGG cuz he didn't move up to 168 to fight ward just to make u happy.

At the moment he is fighting a good opponent and is looking like a nice pay day and after that is looking at getting the biggest pay day of his life but u want him to throw all that away to fight Andre ward :snoop:

And u know boxing and I'm sure u know that he indeed has some good fights ahead of him... People just hate him cuz they tired of seeing him win.
 
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