Fury616
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yea, you dont know what you talking about...you talking about perks, while i'm talking about getting the job done....the 2 hand cannons i listed have similar or better: firing rate, range, impact, reload, and clip size compared to the thorn...on top of that, the last word has a faster time to kill (highest in the game); and the hawkmoon can do more damage in less shots cause of the bonus rounds, so how are they not better?...the only thing the thorn got on them is the poison effect, that's it....and the fact i can kneel to counter that(which you dont seem to know about), means in most cases you a dead muthafukka if i got one of those 2 guns and you using the thorn....
every gun in the game can be outgunned cause they all have pros/cons, and you then have to factor in the skill of the person using it....
red death is better...only thing the thorn has on it is the poison effect (which is the advantage it has on every gun cause that's the unique perk for it)......other than that, red death fires faster, has more stability, more in the clip, faster reload, and the perk of getting healed with every kill....also, it got the buff cause they buffed all pulse rifles...like i said before: if i got the red death and you got the thorn, in most cases you a dead muthafukka....and again: you can counter the poison by just crouching...that's all you have to do....
now that i think, better is the wrong word to use...i say that cause all the guns have pros/cons, there is no 'best' gun...which is 'better' comes down to what you like to use, how you use it, etc...
anyway, as for people running around in pvp using 3-4 weapons doesnt reflect on the pvp being broken, cause that's how all pvps are...people tend to use what is considered the 'best'/easiest i win gun when it comes to mp....the thorn just happens to be that gun of the moment....just like it was fusions 1st, then autos....no one was crying about the thorn then even though it was just as good...now that the majority running around with it, it's op....lol get the fukk outta here.....only problem i have with it is that everyone is running around with it....that makes pvp boring to me....
Holy shyt you making my points for me. There is a reason why every one is running around with Thorn, cuz it's easy mode. You sitting here defending it isn't going to change the fact that it is completely dominating IB/ToO and Crucible.
You keep saying that the only thing Thorn has over those other weapons is the poison effect. Well no shyt!. That's what get the kills the majority of the time. That makes it a one hit kill sniping hand cannon most of the time. People don't complain about Vex cuz most times it takes numerous shots to get killed by Vex.
Crouching don't mean shyt in a gunfight. Standing or crouching I'm still gonna shoot you. Lol at crouching when 95% of your health and shield are already gone from one shot. Like I said, you naming one or two guns that can counter Thorn is a huge problem.