Official Destiny Thread [RISE OF IRON OUT NOW!]

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autos werent op, they were just easy to use...i used to outgun them all the time with the very weapon you said they made useless: scout rifles...also beat them with certain handcannons and pulse rifles...i was on here saying the shyt all the time when people were screaming auto this, auto that....the same shyt is happening with the thorn...it's easy to use cause of the poison, larger clip, and higher fire rate, but it can be outgunned just like any other weapon....

that's another reason i disagree with nerfs: whole classes tend to get fukked up cause of 1 particular weapon getting abused, just like you suggested...you talking about nerfing the whole class of hand cannons cause people abuse 1 particular gun...a gun that is supposed to be better than others cause it's an exotic....which isnt right nor fair...if they wanna make a change, make it to just the thorn alone....the same shyt happened to autos cause of the suros...

...even if they did nerf the thorn, all that's gonna happen is people will flock to another gun, that will get abused/used to death, and people will start screaming for that to be 'balanced'...eventually, all the guns will perform the same for the most part, making the game boring, and the ones that complained will stop playing, leaving the others with a fukked up, non fun game...

side note: i'm down to run trials with you this weekend...last week was just a banner grind to get light...

My most used guns online are Pulse Rifles, I know you can outgun a Thorn, lol.

It's still overpowered. Just because you can beat out a guy who's aim is off occasionally doesn't mean the gun isn't overpowered. I'm talking about nerfing all of the Hand Cannon's range because they need it. Just like the shotguns needed it. I shouldn't have an advantage from range with Hand Cannons. They should rape from mid to close range, not from all ranges.

:heh:

If they reverted the Thorn back to it's OG state it would still be a good gun and it would still be used a lot in Trials. There's little variety to what people are going to now already. I can hold my own against Thorns with whatever I have on me, but that's not the case for everybody, and I'm sure it's not fun to always have to go against a team of Thorn users.

And you could have gotten Etheric Light from Trials Silver and Gold Packages and then got on Iron Banner. I literally got to Rank 5 in like 5 matches with my Titan on the last day it was running. They buff the rep you get, so really all I did was complete the Iron Banner bounties and I hit Rank 5 yesterday. I didn't even play IB with my Titan prior to yesterday. Basically, you could have gotten even more Etheric Light if you would have joined us in Trials
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Thorn(and pulse rifles) are good counters to snipers. If you want to camp out and snipe nikkas then you best not miss. so i dont think it should be nerfed.

best two hand cannons I've used are fatebringer(better for Control) and thorn.
No Hand Cannon should be used to counter a damn sniper, that's my point.

Scout Rifles should be the primary that handles snipers, not a damn hand cannon. Unfortunately, there's only a few Scouts with enough impact to make a sloppy sniper pay.
 

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You lose all credibility with this. The perks of those hand cannons are not better than everything Thorn does that I listed. You sound foolish saying it can be outgunned like every other weapon. :mjlol:

Red Death is not better than Thorn. It only counters the poison with healing. THats it. It is the only gun that can counter Thorn. One gun, thats it. LOL at defending this.

Not to mention if there are only 3-4 other weapons that are "better" than Thorn, then the PvP is completely broken. They need to buff a shytload of other guns instead of having 4-5 guns completely dominating Crucible/IB/ToO like it currently is.

yea, you dont know what you talking about...you talking about perks, while i'm talking about getting the job done....the 2 hand cannons i listed have similar or better: firing rate, range, impact, reload, and clip size compared to the thorn...on top of that, the last word has a faster time to kill (highest in the game); and the hawkmoon can do more damage in less shots cause of the bonus rounds, so how are they not better?...the only thing the thorn got on them is the poison effect, that's it....and the fact i can kneel to counter that(which you dont seem to know about), means in most cases you a dead muthafukka if i got one of those 2 guns and you using the thorn....

every gun in the game can be outgunned cause they all have pros/cons, and you then have to factor in the skill of the person using it....

red death is better...only thing the thorn has on it is the poison effect (which is the advantage it has on every gun cause that's the unique perk for it)......other than that, red death fires faster, has more stability, more in the clip, faster reload, and the perk of getting healed with every kill....also, it got the buff cause they buffed all pulse rifles...like i said before: if i got the red death and you got the thorn, in most cases you a dead muthafukka....and again: you can counter the poison by just crouching...that's all you have to do....

now that i think, better is the wrong word to use...i say that cause all the guns have pros/cons, there is no 'best' gun...which is 'better' comes down to what you like to use, how you use it, etc...

anyway, as for people running around in pvp using 3-4 weapons doesnt reflect on the pvp being broken, cause that's how all pvps are...people tend to use what is considered the 'best'/easiest i win gun when it comes to mp....the thorn just happens to be that gun of the moment....just like it was fusions 1st, then autos....no one was crying about the thorn then even though it was just as good...now that the majority running around with it, it's op....lol get the fukk outta here.....only problem i have with it is that everyone is running around with it....that makes pvp boring to me....
 

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Bungie should drop some Exotic armor perk that negates burns
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You hate the Thorn, okay well you have to use an Exotic slot to rid of the devouring effect.
 

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My most used guns online are Pulse Rifles, I know you can outgun a Thorn, lol.

It's still overpowered. Just because you can beat out a guy who's aim is off occasionally doesn't mean the gun isn't overpowered. I'm talking about nerfing all of the Hand Cannon's range because they need it. Just like the shotguns needed it. I shouldn't have an advantage from range with Hand Cannons. They should rape from mid to close range, not from all ranges.

:heh:

If they reverted the Thorn back to it's OG state it would still be a good gun and it would still be used a lot in Trials. There's little variety to what people are going to now already. I can hold my own against Thorns with whatever I have on me, but that's not the case for everybody, and I'm sure it's not fun to always have to go against a team of Thorn users.

And you could have gotten Etheric Light from Trials Silver and Gold Packages and then got on Iron Banner. I literally got to Rank 5 in like 5 matches with my Titan on the last day it was running. They buff the rep you get, so really all I did was complete the Iron Banner bounties and I hit Rank 5 yesterday. I didn't even play IB with my Titan prior to yesterday. Basically, you could have gotten even more Etheric Light if you would have joined us in Trials
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i know you use prs, that's why i'm shocked you saying autos were op'd....

they've already nerfed hand cannons though...twice actually if i recall....and it was the range and accuracy that got effected...

if they change it back to the og state, most would probably stop using it and flock to the next hot weapon of the moment....and the cycle will continue....true, it's not fun to always go against thorn users, but just cause it's annoying doesnt mean i think the class/gun should be nerfed...

lol aight man, my bad...i only had limited time to play cause of work, so i was trying to do a lot of shyt with all my characters, but i got you this weekend...
 

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Bungie should drop some Exotic armor perk that negates burns
:mjlol:

You hate the Thorn, okay well you have to use an Exotic slot to rid of the devouring effect.

that would be interesting....especially how the stats would be setup on that armor...

i dont hate the thorn...it's a cool weapon...i use it in pve and i really dig how it looks....just think it's been elevated to overrated status, and i dont think it's op...
 

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Attempting to dolo this Nightfall now. Can't sprint past the 1st two Shriekers like I do usually.
Luckily it's at the beginning, but they dropped me too a few times
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Void Burn
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That Scorch Cannon with Solar Burn on tho
:damn:

Got all the way to the boss twice and died today when I was soloing it
 

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What are the best guns you can get from the Variks brehs?
 

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there all trash in my oppinion... i mean if ur looking to have something to play around their cool... but no weapons match up against anything from the llast dlc and original endgame weapons.
I figured.

I was wondering if there was anything to roll for with the Change Package, but I'll just hold on to the weapon core for now.
 

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why did they take out treasure key farming from the game and made it even harder to get em from ether chests?:dwillhuh:
 

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why did they take out treasure key farming from the game and made it even harder to get em from ether chests?:dwillhuh:
Just run the Queen's Bounties and you're going to get one. I got like 4 today from doing them with all of my characters.

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why did they take out treasure key farming from the game and made it even harder to get em from ether chests?:dwillhuh:

its actually easier, they drop so much more often... i got one from a small chest at the end of poe at level 35 this morning and got the ram from the chest...
 
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