Official Destiny Thread [RISE OF IRON OUT NOW!]

[lutha]

It's like Suros in Iron Banner. Don't think people complained about Suros like this though. Bungie just looked at IB stats and nerfed it not taking into the account that the only reason everybody that had it was using it was cuz of the auto rifle headshot bounty. It was the strongest and most accurate auto in the game and made that bounty light work compared to some of the others.

So instead of leaving the bounty and nerfing autos or the doing the opposite to see what would happen, they changed the bounty and nerfed autos at the same damn time shyt was pointless

yea, they did cause it was the main gun majority were using in pvp at first....the flow of weapon complaints(not including shotties cause they always get complaints) went fusions(range and impact), then moved to suros (1st exotic a lot of people got at once), then moved to the vex...the vex took all the focus off other weapons cause of what it would do in the crucible...people complained at first cause it was hard to get, but after people started cheesing the shyt outa VoG, the complaints got quieter...

 

[lutha]

Holy shyt you making my points for me. There is a reason why every one is running around with Thorn, cuz it's easy mode. You sitting here defending it isn't going to change the fact that it is completely dominating IB/ToO and Crucible.

You keep saying that the only thing Thorn has over those other weapons is the poison effect. Well no shyt!. That's what get the kills the majority of the time. That makes it a one hit kill sniping hand cannon most of the time. People don't complain about Vex cuz most times it takes numerous shots to get killed by Vex.

Crouching don't mean shyt in a gunfight. Standing or crouching I'm still gonna shoot you. Lol at crouching when 95% of your health and shield are already gone from one shot. Like I said, you naming one or two guns that can counter Thorn is a huge problem.

i havent defended the gun, just dont think it's op..

as for the rest: we just disagree, that's cool....fun shooting the shyt, helped me pass time at work...

side note: you can laugh at crouching, but because of it, i rarely die from the poison effect anymore and i've killed plenty that came looking for me cause i didnt die from it....like half way during the match, they realize they have to shoot me till i'm dead or they aint gonna get the kill....

 

[lutha]

another thing: turning invisible and then golden gunning a muthafukka is so fukking cool....

 

[Fury616]

i havent defended the gun, just dont think it's op..

as for the rest: we just disagree, that's cool....fun shooting the shyt, helped me pass time at work...

side note: you can laugh at crouching, but because of it, i rarely die from the poison effect anymore and i've killed plenty that came looking for me cause i didnt die from it....like half way during the match, they realize they have to shoot me till i'm dead or they aint gonna get the kill....

thats cool...if they nerf it or not I'm still a pvp regular. Just tired of getting killed by that damn gun Lol

 

[Tic Tac T O]

Yeah, that's the only reason I used the Suros... in IB when you had to get the headshot bounty for ARs. Glad they changed that, I dismantled my Suros the other day too. shyt's dead.

I loved my Suros breh, I can never do that.

But if they really checked the stats they would've saw people switched to something else when the bounty was done. I switched to the Vex or Shadow Price (another complained about weapon) or anything since I was just using my secondaries a lot at that time.

shiiiit, remember when Shingen E went hard in the paint? cats been bytching about autos since they had small faces.

 

[Fury616]

can't believe y'all out here arguing about the Thorn. the fact that arguments on the subject are constantly going on here/there/everywhere should tell you if its op or not.

my two cents:
compared to 97% of the guns in the game currently, yes its op. the damage, range, burn amount, I'm actually all fine with - the solution to me is return autos and fusion rifles (including the Vex) to what they were cuz they clearly go overboard with the nerfs. the way they nerf things is by making them useless so just make every weapon usable again so cats can play how they want without having to be sheep

<--Thorn user

thats what I said, just buff a shytload of other weapons so there is more flavor to pvp than just 4-5 guns.

I do pretty damn good wit regular legendary fusion rifles but the autos are horrible. I love my Unwilling Soul though....huge clip, sprays all over the place and I still got 17 kills wit it the first time I used it

 

[Jayson_bourn]

Didn't know you could negate the DOT by crouching, i'll have to remember those times when I kill a thorn user and have to watch my life burn away.

I don't think the thorn is OP. I think it's an exotic and they're supposed to have a bit of flare. Since i'm a X1 guy I never used the hawkmoon. wouldn't it be a suitable gun to use against a thorn?

A team of thorns is very troublesome but if you're getting team-shot you were probably going to die no matter what they were using. I prefer the TLW myself but the Thorn is the better weapon in various situations due to it's range

 

[JMurder]

we just gonna disagree on this....cause the trials doesnt show how dominant it is because your level matters more than the gun you use in there.....and i ran trials the first week, so i saw it in use there and i see it in use in the crucible all the time...i just think it's overrated cause it's not an op, instant winner gun people hype it up to be.....it's just easy to use.....it's the same shyt that went on with autos...people swore they were op and instant winner, but they werent....but cause people cried about them, they got nerfed to not being fun to use anymore...i fear the same shyt is gonna happen to hand cannons, and whatever the next gun that people flock to after that....

So everything is perfect and nothing needs to be adjusted according to you

 

[lutha]

So everything is perfect and nothing needs to be adjusted according to you

here yall cats go making shyt up to try to make a point instead of going off what was said.....where did I say that?...I didn't and I haven't...but to answer your question: just cause I don't think the thorn is op, the fact I don't like nerfs cause people complain about losing/dying, and cause i'd rather talk about the fun I have with the game instead of complaining about every lil thing doesn't mean I think the game is perfect....

 

[JMurder]

here yall cats go making shyt up to try to make a point instead of going off what was said.....where did I say that?...I didn't and I haven't...but to answer your question: just cause I don't think the thorn is op, the fact I don't like nerfs cause people complain about losing/dying, and cause i'd rather talk about the fun I have with the game instead of complaining about every lil thing doesn't mean I think the game is perfect....

I'm not saying that's what you're saying. I'm saying as far as the guns in pvp go...you feel like everything should stay the way it is. Nevermind that two shots from the Thorn is basically death when there's practically no other gun besides the Last Word that's like that. You have to have two PERFECT shots with the Red Death to get that same result, and three shots where one of the hits lands in the head...four shots if all the bullets hit the body.

 

[lutha]

I'm not saying that's what you're saying. I'm saying as far as the guns in pvp go...you feel like everything should stay the way it is. Nevermind that two shots from the Thorn is basically death when there's practically no other gun besides the Last Word that's like that. You have to have two PERFECT shots with the Red Death to get that same result, and three shots where one of the hits lands in the head...four shots if all the bullets hit the body.

that's exactly what you were saying though by saying 'so according to you, everything is perfect and nothing needs to be adjusted', and 'you feel everything should stay the way it is'...I haven't said nothing like that...I have said that you don't need to adjust a whole class cause of 1 weapon, i.e. hand cannons cause of the thorn; autos cause of the suros; fusions cause of the vex......you just adjust those particular weapons.....

as for the thorn: I've spoke my piece on that...yall think it's op, I don't...that's cool....

 

[JMurder]

that's exactly what you were saying though by saying 'so according to you, everything is perfect and nothing needs to be adjusted', and 'you feel everything should stay the way it is'...I haven't said nothing like that...I have said that you don't need to adjust a whole class cause of 1 weapon, i.e. hand cannons cause of the thorn; autos cause of the suros; fusions cause of the vex......you just adjust those particular weapons.....

as for the thorn: I've spoke my piece on that...yall think it's op, I don't...that's cool....

OK...I agree with that.

Thorn is an OP weapon...but it only needs to be tweaked a little. I agree that a whole class of weapons shouldn't have to be adjusted....though I feel like hand cannons are the flavor of the month between Thorn and TLW. Auto Rifles and to a lesser degree fusion rifles need a buff tho

 

[lutha]

OK...I agree with that.

Thorn is an OP weapon...but it only needs to be tweaked a little. I agree that a whole class of weapons shouldn't have to be adjusted....though I feel like hand cannons are the flavor of the month between Thorn and TLW. Auto Rifles and to a lesser degree fusion rifles need a buff tho

they only need a buff now cause bungie fukked them up when they did balance adjustments aka nerfs in the first place cause people complained about them....

 

[rogue_riezo]

In an argument with someone on another forum

You know what's ***? I did the first raid 6 or 7 times and ONLY got ascendant shards to show for it.

That's when I realised the game was a complete waste of time and the "devs" (More like rogues) relied on their players to grind the game out to fill their sense of game longevity. Destiny was a pathetic excuse for a video game.


Never again.

 

[BreatheEasy]

i think this discussion shows just how difficult it is to balance a game that incorporates PVE and PVP