Official Comic-Con 2015 Thread

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

In.

DC - it's your time to shine. Don't fukk it up

Star Wars is about to come through and

too

 

[BXKingPin82]

So is DC the official "grown ups comic book movie/cartoon" company right now?
and is that a good thing for them?

 

[MartyMcFly]

So is DC the official "grown ups comic book movie/cartoon" company right now?
and is that a good thing for them?

Their cartoons, at least the one on cartoon network, is still for kids. Their direct to video movies are typically for older audiences anyway and have been for the most part since 1992 breh. Mask of the Phantasm could be watched by both kids and adults because I remember dragging my mom to see that at the movies when i was 6 and she didn't complain much actually and most of Bruce Timm's stuff has always veered to be so that kids and adults can enjoy it but also not trying to talk down to kids either.

As far as their movies go, depends on this one because while we can theorize and guess as to who they're catering to, we won't know anything until we see the movie and of course if you market things to kids, they're going to want to see it. Terminator 2 had toys marketed to kids and it was a rated R science fiction flick. I had the terminator toy and a homie of mine had the T1000 toy and the bike but there's no way in hell I would call that a "kids" movie.

The adults and teenagers will respond to the themes of the movie probably while the kids will just soak up the action. The one way it will help them though is differentiating their brand from Marvel; there's no reason to have two comic book companies making the same type of movies because that shyt would get boring and predictable. If you want to establish your brand and identity of your brand, you gotta be a little different from your competitor and that's what they're doing or at least seemingly doing and I'm not mad at them for it.

 

[BXKingPin82]

Their cartoons, at least the one on cartoon network, is still for kids. Their direct to video movies are typically for older audiences anyway and have been for the most part since 1992 breh. Mask of the Phantasm could be watched by both kids and adults because I remember dragging my mom to see that at the movies when i was 6 and she didn't complain much actually and most of Bruce Timm's stuff has always veered to be so that kids and adults can enjoy it but also not trying to talk down to kids either.

As far as their movies go, depends on this one because while we can theorize and guess as to who they're catering to, we won't know anything until we see the movie and of course if you market things to kids, they're going to want to see it. Terminator 2 had toys marketed to kids and it was a rated R science fiction flick. I had the terminator toy and a homie of mine had the T1000 toy and the bike but there's no way in hell I would call that a "kids" movie.

The adults and teenagers will respond to the themes of the movie probably while the kids will just soak up the action. The one way it will help them though is differentiating their brand from Marvel; there's no reason to have two comic book companies making the same type of movies because that shyt would get boring and predictable. If you want to establish your brand and identity of your brand, you gotta be a little different from your competitor and that's what they're doing or at least seemingly doing and I'm not mad at them for it.

we livin in different times now tho
this aint the 80s no more
and even with that said
"Suicide Squad"?
with how soft these kids are now?
i want these movies to succeed
but i always felt like you HAVE to cater to kids too
and this was before me having one
thats why these kids so fukked up now
they think they HAVE TO live on an adult level when they dont
how you aint got no jobs no hope for these muthafukkas
givin them a future of debt
then expect them to be all happy go lucky as kids?
they already know shyts fukked up

 

[Airtrack360]

Judging by MoS, the BvS trailer and Suicide Squad, I'm going to guess DC is going for a more mature feel as opposed to Marvel's more fantastical feel.

 

[abominable1]

Marvel live stream at comic-con

don't know how much it show , but worth a try

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

So is DC the official "grown ups comic book movie/cartoon" company right now?
and is that a good thing for them?

Thats a bit of a black & white way to look at it, but fair I suppose. If they do look at themselves that way, it's a case of rebranding for the theatrical releases. Green Lantern tried to out-Marvel Marvel and we saw how that worked out. Can't really call it until they have more stories in the cinematic canon.

I don't even know if it matters at this point - If the toys don't do numbers because of it (but lets face it - if you told 2 dads in Toys R Us that you had the last Batman in the store on Christams Eve. and they had to go into a room and fight to the death for it - only one of those motherfukkers is coming out alive) - they'll just make the $200 figures and pitch them to adults. There is definitely someone out there who is rich and weird enough to buy a life size Superman statue for his shrine. Only thing they have to worry about is bad reviews.

 

[TheGodling]

So is DC the official "grown ups comic book movie/cartoon" company right now?
and is that a good thing for them?

That depends on whether they'll repeat the 80's and mistake 'grown up' and 'mature' for 'dark' and 'gritty'. As Grant Morrison once said (I think it was about his Animal Man run) he believed all the supposedly 'mature' (violent, dark) books were still just meant for kids, because they would think it's edgy and cool. He opted that for comics to really be mature, they would have to offer intelligent storytelling dealing with complex themes that would need the full attention of the reader. Which I fully agree on, shouldn't it be obvious.

So back to these movies, just because that is the angle that WB/DC wants to play, doesn't mean they're succeeding at it. Nolan did a bit of both with TDK (both the more dark material but also trying to deal with more complex themes and faux-pas intelligent storytelling) and succeeded mostly (certainly enough to affect future pop culture up to this very day) but my favorite hated movie of the past five years, Man Of Steel, failed completely with its all-time intelligence insulting screenplay and grand-display "isn't this cool, guys?" approach to the action.

So it basically boils down to this, what do you think is a more 'grown up' movie? Commando, which holds an R-rating, or Million Dollar Baby, which is PG-13?

 

[MartyMcFly]

we livin in different times now tho
this aint the 80s no more
and even with that said
"Suicide Squad"?
with how soft these kids are now?
i want these movies to succeed
but i always felt like you HAVE to cater to kids too
and this was before me having one
thats why these kids so fukked up now
they think they HAVE TO live on an adult level when they dont
how you aint got no jobs no hope for these muthafukkas
givin them a future of debt
then expect them to be all happy go lucky as kids?
they already know shyts fukked up

Well again not everything has to appeal to kids. That deadpool movie will not be for kids. Suicide squad might not either but flash might and so might Wonder Woman and aquaman. You diversify your lineup much like your comics are diversified. Not ever comic is an all ages comic

 

[TheGodling]

Well again not everything has to appeal to kids. That deadpool movie will not be for kids. Suicide squad might not either but flash might and so might Wonder Woman and aquaman. You diversify your lineup much like your comics are diversified. Not ever comic is an all ages comic

Yes, it will. Just because it'll get an R-rating slapped on it for violence doesn't mean it's a mature movie.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Yes, it will. Just because it'll get an R-rating slapped on it for violence doesn't mean it's a mature movie.

They said they're going for a hard R breh...I don't see that being for kids but we'll see.

 

[TheGodling]

They said they're going for a hard R breh...I don't see that being for kids but we'll see.

It makes no sense that you can't see that even after saying how they basically marketed T2 to kids with toys and videogames and whatnot. So let me ask you a serious question, how old were you when you saw T2? Or Commando? Or Predator? Or any other 80's action classic? I know I wasn't even ten, that's for sure. Hollywood knows these kids will be attracted to it so despite the rating, the shyt is aimed as much at kids as (or even more than) adults. Just because they're not part of the 'official' rating-approved audience doesn't mean they don't want to have the toys, or play the games. Age matters only at the box office, not when it comes to merchandise and that's one thing Hollywood fully understands.

 

[MartyMcFly]

It makes no sense that you can't see that even after saying how they basically marketed T2 to kids with toys and videogames and whatnot. So let me ask you a serious question, how old were you when you saw T2? Or Commando? Or Predator? Or any other 80's action classic? I know I wasn't even ten, that's for sure. Hollywood knows these kids will be attracted to it so despite the rating, the shyt is aimed as much at kids as (or even more than) adults. Just because they're not part of the 'official' rating-approved audience doesn't mean they don't want to have the toys, or play the games. Age matters only at the box office, not when it comes to merchandise and that's one thing Hollywood fully understands.

I did fine with those movies but I can look at them as an adult and say yeah these aren't kids movies and if I had a kid I might not be cool with them watching it. That's the point. It's not about how I dealt with them or how they did or didn't affect me but how a parent is going to weigh that decision. @BXKingPin82 and I talk about that all the time. He's on the fence about letting his son see some stuff, didn't even think Jurassic world was cool for the kid so imagine what he'll think of deadpool. At 6 I saw T2 but I was like 1 when predator came out. I saw predator as a teenager tho but even when I saw T2 there was stuff that bugged me out as a 6 year old and I didn't want to see. It's all about the parent and how they feel about it and when I hear the director say he was thinking fight club and they want a hard R rating the last thing I think is "kids movie"

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

So is DC the official "grown ups comic book movie/cartoon" company right now?
and is that a good thing for them?

i think there is a happy medium to be found where both kids and adults can find common ground (like the marvel movies have done).

i really don't ever wanna see the day where i have to think twice about taking my kids to a superman movie.

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

i think there is happy medium to be found where both kids and adults can find common ground (like the marvel movies have done).

i really don't ever wanna see the day where i have to think twice about taking my kids to a superman movie.

Real talk, adult comic fans are selfish......the only reason why we all stan DC and Marvel is because of their kid friendly content throughout history. The day the comic industry becomes strictly for adult is the day the comic industry will die