Official Comic-Con 2015 Thread

[TheGodling]

I did fine with those movies but I can look at them as an adult and say yeah these aren't kids movies and if I had a kid I might not be cool with them watching it. That's the point. It's not about how I dealt with them or how they did or didn't affect me but how a parent is going to weigh that decision. @BXKingPin82 and I talk about that all the time. He's on the fence about letting his son see some stuff, didn't even think Jurassic world was cool for the kid so imagine what he'll think of deadpool. At 6 I saw T2 but I was like 1 when predator came out. I saw predator as a teenager tho but even when I saw T2 there was stuff that bugged me out as a 6 year old and I didn't want to see. It's all about the parent and how they feel about it and when I hear the director say he was thinking fight club and they want a hard R rating the last thing I think is "kids movie"

Now you're moving the discussion away from my point though. It doesn't matter whether those movies are actually unsuitable for kids, the point is that these kids want to fukking see it. To quote your OG post again:

Well again not everything has to appeal to kids. That deadpool movie will not be for kids. Suicide squad might not either but flash might and so might Wonder Woman and aquaman. You diversify your lineup much like your comics are diversified. Not ever comic is an all ages comic

'Not everything has to appeal to kids' you say, except Deadpool will appeal to kids because he's a funny wise-cracking guy who shoots and stabs people. There's a huge discrepancy between something that is truly aimed at mature audiences and something that is only deemed for mature audiences because of unsuitable content even though they're clearly trying to appeal to all ages. Because at the end of the day they would be mad as fukk if they only reached adult audiences and would have to rely on their interest alone to buy the merchandise. That's why a movie like Deadpool will be for the kids, because they are an integral part of the wide audience they try to reach even if they aren't allowed to watch the movie.

 

[BXKingPin82]

i think there is a happy medium to be found where both kids and adults can find common ground (like the marvel movies have done).

i really don't ever wanna see the day where i have to think twice about taking my kids to a superman movie.

yeah but alotta what dc been doin isnt kid friendly like that
shyt
my son still hasnt seen Dark Knight
and im just tryna be a good dad in this pc era

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

Now you're moving the discussion away from my point though. It doesn't matter whether those movies are actually unsuitable for kids, the point is that these kids want to fukking see it. To quote your OG post again:



'Not everything has to appeal to kids' you say, except Deadpool will appeal to kids because he's a funny wise-cracking guy who shoots and stabs people. There's a huge discrepancy between something that is truly aimed at mature audiences and something that is only deemed for mature audiences because of unsuitable content even though they're clearly trying to appeal to all ages. Because at the end of the day they would be mad as fukk if they only reached adult audiences and would have to rely on their interest alone to buy the merchandise. That's why a movie like Deadpool will be for the kids, because they are an integral part of the wide audience they try to reach even if they aren't allowed to watch the movie.

I think any superhero genre medium will appeal to kids...........Deadpool is going to be interesting when it comes out. According to everything I've heard, Deadpool is going straight for an adult audience though. I imagine its gonna be in the same vain as Kickass

 

[MartyMcFly]

Now you're moving the discussion away from my point though. It doesn't matter whether those movies are actually unsuitable for kids, the point is that these kids want to fukking see it. To quote your OG post again:



'Not everything has to appeal to kids' you say, except Deadpool will appeal to kids because he's a funny wise-cracking guy who shoots and stabs people. There's a huge discrepancy between something that is truly aimed at mature audiences and something that is only deemed for mature audiences because of unsuitable content even though they're clearly trying to appeal to all ages. Because at the end of the day they would be mad as fukk if they only reached adult audiences and would have to rely on their interest alone to buy the merchandise. That's why a movie like Deadpool will be for the kids, because they are an integral part of the wide audience they try to reach even if they aren't allowed to watch the movie.

And I'm saying I don't see it being for kids when the director has compared it to fight club and all involved parties have said they shot it on a lower budget in order to go hard R. They're hoping it can be the kind of success that Kingsman was on a box office level and there's no way in hell that is a kids movie. You're arguing will kids want to go see it, not is it for kids as those are two very very different things. I wanted to see a few things as a kid that were rated R and didn't get to see them because moms wasn't having it. Yes there are aspects of Deadpool that will appeal to kids, doesn't mean they're going to make it for kids or with kids in mind

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

And I'm saying I don't see it being for kids when the director has compared it to fight club and all involved parties have said they shot it on a lower budget in order to go hard R. They're hoping it can be the kind of success that Kingsman was on a box office level and there's no way in hell that is a kids movie. You're arguing will kids want to go see it, not is it for kids as those are two very very different things. I wanted to see a few things as a kid that were rated R and didn't get to see them because moms wasn't having it. Yes there are aspects of Deadpool that will appeal to kids, doesn't mean they're going to make it for kids or with kids in mind

And Fox has proven that they don't care to make superhero films that appeal to kids. Even though kids can watch Days of Future Past, you can tell that it was created to appeal more so to adults/Teens. Which is prob why the kids that I know go for Marvel Avengers and this in comparison for X-men.

 

[TheGodling]

And I'm saying I don't see it being for kids when the director has compared it to fight club and all involved parties have said they shot it on a lower budget in order to go hard R. They're hoping it can be the kind of success that Kingsman was on a box office level and there's no way in hell that is a kids movie. You're arguing will kids want to go see it, not is it for kids as those are two very very different things. I wanted to see a few things as a kid that were rated R and didn't get to see them because moms wasn't having it. Yes there are aspects of Deadpool that will appeal to kids, doesn't mean they're going to make it for kids or with kids in mind

Again, how can you say that while being full aware of how T2 (and Robocop and whatever) was marketed to kids with toys and shyt? The director might not make the movie for 'kids' but you can be damn sure that the marketing team are going to do everything in its power to reach them too because that's where the money is, like @Moose_Greyjoy said:

I think any superhero genre medium will appeal to kids...........Deadpool is going to be interesting when it comes out. According to everything I've heard, Deadpool is going straight for an adult audience though. I imagine its gonna be in the same vain as Kickass

And that's why kids will always be in the back of the minds of producers. And for the record, Kick-Ass too was aiming wide because they threw that 'serious' take on what it would be like if a kid actually put on a suit and fought crime out of the window real fast to have Nic Cage fukkery and jet packs and 'cool' stuff. Again, they don't give a fukk that kids can't see it because of bytchy moms or theater rules. This is where you're missing how much side money there is to this business and how, for all the pretensions and talk about going hard R this will be mature definitely not for kids stuff, they are aiming for them to get excited as much as everyone else.

And to bring that full circle to my original argument, that's the difference between making actual mature content, and faking maturity as a marketing trick to kids. Deadpool, no matter if it's John Wick levels of violence, is the latter. Even if not a single kid will be allowed to see it.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Again, how can you say that while being full aware of how T2 (and Robocop and whatever) was marketed to kids with toys and shyt? The director might not make the movie for 'kids' but you can be damn sure that the marketing team are going to do everything in its power to reach them too because that's where the money is, like @Moose_Greyjoy said:



And that's why kids will always be in the back of the minds of producers. And for the record, Kick-Ass too was aiming wide because they threw that 'serious' take on what it would be like if a kid actually put on a suit and fought crime out of the window real fast to have Nic Cage fukkery and jet packs and 'cool' stuff. Again, they don't give a fukk that kids can't see it because of bytchy moms or theater rules. This is where you're missing how much side money there is to this business and how, for all the pretensions and talk about going hard R this will be mature definitely not for kids stuff, they are aiming for them to get excited as much as everyone else.

And to bring that full circle to my original argument, that's the difference between making actual mature content, and faking maturity as a marketing trick to kids. Deadpool, no matter if it's John Wick levels of violence, is the latter. Even if not a single kid will be allowed to see it.

Breh, the marketing company and the film production team aren't always in cahoots and you know that. That's nothing new. So I stick to what I said: Can the initial conceit appeal to kids? Yes. Does it mean it will be a movie just for kids? No. So like I said, we can have this discussion in February or the months leading up to it and see what's what but as of now, I'm sticking to what I said and I don't feel any reason to move from it. If you disagree, cool, you disagree

 

[Airtrack360]

Whether or not DC is gonna be geared towards kids or adults I believe the stories DC has to tell are more geared to young adults.

 

[MartyMcFly]

And Fox has proven that they don't care to make superhero films that appeal to kids. Even though kids can watch Days of Future Past, you can tell that it was created to appeal more so to adults/Teens. Which is prob why the kids that I know go for Marvel Avengers and this in comparison for X-men.

And it works more when you shoot the movie on a budget knowing that it's not going to have a mass appeal, which is why you give it an R rating, that way you maximize your return on investment. I could be wrong but that's the way I see it happening

 

[TheGodling]

Breh, the marketing company and the film production team aren't always in cahoots and you know that. That's nothing new. So I stick to what I said: Can the initial conceit appeal to kids? Yes. Does it mean it will be a movie just for kids? No. So like I said, we can have this discussion in February or the months leading up to it and see what's what but as of now, I'm sticking to what I said and I don't feel any reason to move from it. If you disagree, cool, you disagree

The ol' @MartyMcFly patented "Let's agree to disagree" post, right on time for bed time.

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[Airtrack360]

Jurassic World had the opportunity to make a more violent suspenseful movie like the first one. But it didn't have to. It just had to check all the boxes to make a lot of money. Cater to kids and adults, nostalgia, dinosaur fights, Chris Pratt, etc. I personal think as a movie the film was bad and I put it in the same category as transformers. But just like transformers they knew exactly what kind of movie to make to get the outcome that they got and it worked.

 

[MartyMcFly]

The ol' @MartyMcFly patented "Let's agree to disagree" post, right on time for bed time.

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Not even breh, it's just the idea that why in the hell would I keep going back and forth with you on something that we're just guessing on? It's stupid. A good debate is when you've got tangible evidence and the only tangible evidence we have is from directors and actors and you're saying fukk that, so what do we have then? Historical patterns to which I'm saying those don't always matter when it comes to this because you make a rated R movie, at least this one, at a lower cost than you would if you needed it to be a huge huge hit and appeal to everyone, that way you make your money back and you allow your talent to take more risks. You're saying fukk that too so at that point lol I got nothing breh..go to bed wake up in the morning and be happy. And since I respect you, I'm not going to keep arguing a point that clearly you disagree with while you argue a point that clearly I disagree with. That's insanity breh. you like pissing contests I don't

 

[NansensuToko]

No Deadpool panel?

 

[MartyMcFly]

No Deadpool panel?

It'll be one saturday i think with the fox panel

 

[MenacingMonk]

He can't do it anyway. I know Disney is trying to figure out how to do a Guardians of the Galaxy / Star Wars movie.

fukk just using GOTG. Do all Marvel.

Patton da GAWD already laid it out: