Official Coli Gardening Thread..Vegetables/Fruits/Herbs/Spices..Freshest Thread Ever

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

thanks for the responses, two comments though

1)My relatives don't have raised gardens, but ground level gardens separate from lawn and along fence of neighboring property. Even with soil preparation there are occasional weeds . In all instances,neighbors don't tend their yards at all.
Gonna try just pulling the weeds up, but my first inclination was to lift weeds and then claw the soil.


2) With all the rain that fell throughout parts of the country, I would think that even people who don't normally claw/scratch/turn soil between plaints would do so because of all that water. Get oxygen into the soil.

Yeah so you'll never get rid of weeds. If that is your concern, abandon it. especially in the case of your neighbors not preventing weeds from going to seed. The ways to not have weeds are to grow indoors, hydro, or herbicides.

Water penetration, soil penetration doesnt necessarily equate to aeration. What do the forests have for rain to get into? Grassland prairies? Worms and plant density. Once a dandelion dies the long taproot shrivels up and then makes a cavern for water penetration and aeration. You can plant carrots and radishes to do the same thing. In the winter plant wheat/rye to do the same thing. Growing your soil is not just and up but and in and down thing.

Disturbing the relationship of the microbial life thru usage of the claw is what I'm against. There are complex anaerobic and aerobic populations and conditions going on that I'm going to leave as they are. I understand your usage of it, this is what I understand about my practices, and my ag philosophy.

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

@Get These Nets This video, apologize the slow talking cac but this is what I am working on in my garden and advocate more black people to learn. I have come up on nearly 1200sqft plot in the city. my homie and I will be building this stuff up as a model for building up soils in city plots. Putting soil down doesn't mean shyt if there isn't life innit.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Anyone got a lemon tree? I read its better to buy one already a bit grown than to start from seed

yes it's better to get one than start from seeds, just got one this year

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

I have a bunch of little bugs all over my cucumber leaves!



I think they are spider mites. They attacked the hell out of the cukes, and there are tiny webs on them. My cukes were about to start climbing the trellis.



I bought an insecticide from Home Depot. I hope it works.

 

[newworldafro]

Agrihood

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

I finally have 2 peppers coming in!




My Campari tomato plants that I started from a slice in the ground a week after Easter are looking nice too.



Cherry tomato plant is six feet tall



My romas are growing big.



Cucumbers filled the trellis, and are now latching onto bamboo stakes



I make a nice cucumber tomato salad with fresh basil and rosemary from my porch



The taste of accomplishment

 

[Mandarin Duck]

Threads like these are why I'm never leaving the coli.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Unexpectedly, I now have both a front and back yard. I've been reading about permaculture for years tho. So the first thing i did was 'chop and drop' the weeds. (Was that right? I have no idea what I'm doing. )

I figure it's too late to start anything, plus I wanna build raised beds.

Ideas requested.

 

[Neuromancer]

How long do spinach and carrots take? I got plants but no veggies.

 

[Neuromancer]

Is insecticide the way to go?

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

Unexpectedly, I now have both a front and back yard. I've been reading about permaculture for years tho. So the first thing i did was 'chop and drop' the weeds. (Was that right? I have no idea what I'm doing. )

I figure it's too late to start anything, plus I wanna build raised beds.

Ideas requested.

It's not actually late to start anything depending on where you live. If you start ASAP like this weekend you can eat a lot of greens this time of year and through the winter. You can start all the lettuces and spinaches you want and eat those now ish (within 2mos) and have a good harvest of harder leafy greens like kale and collards that can go after your first frost.

Last year I was able to take my purple kale out through the entire winter, we had a mild winter in DC, and then have it go to seeds in spring. Deer ate all my seeds though.

From here USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map
You'll be able to determine what your general climate is like and what you can plant. I usually get all my seeds from rareseeds.com I'm focused right now on regenerating my seedstock so things like this in the future I'll be able to pitch to you directly instead of sending you to them.

From the grocery store, you can go to your fancier ones and they may have like the basil starters in those plastic bags, buy that and transplant it into your soil and see how it does. If it really starts going off in like 2weeks then we can go more in depth about what you want to grow and how you are able to do it within the constraints of whatever your environment is like. this process can be repeated with ginger, bok choy, turmeric, garlic, and sweet potatoes. You have to go to the organic grocery stores because reg grocery varieties aren't the best to propagate or grow from seed.

The chop and drop was right. You should also start a compost pile or bin with some soil from your yard. Roughly, just layer soil and waste, soil and waste. Keep it moist but not wet, and let it dry out from time to time. Next spring it could be ready to use for your garden but spring 2021 it really will be where u want it to grow really good food.

Spoiler: no doxxing

I have started a podcast for black people growing anything I go into a lot of depth about composts. Check it out Jìgìjìgì EP 006 – Compost

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

How long do spinach and carrots take? I got plants but no veggies.

Put a pic up. I dont want to assume something incorrect but if you have a spinach plant you have spinach greens. You may not have planted densely enough, or as many as you need to to get the leaves you've needed for harvest.

I think carrots take a long time but you can dig them up and check on the and eat one. That one will be representative of the rest usually. There is always magic below the soil though...

Is insecticide the way to go?

Im not a proponent of insecticides, but I have had to use it. I usually try to use some oil/soap based thing. When I had spider mites I used SNS-217 which is natural and uses cinnamon, oregano, and rosemary oils I think.

I wouldn't blanket spray, but try to understand what isn't being provided to the plant through the soil that has left it up to infection. This holistic analysis will help you build soil as opposed to killing bugs. This of course takes more time but is better for the soils you are growing in, and for the food you will consume. If you are growing indoors or something else transitory, like me, renting a spot, then really try to understand is it that I really want this plant even though it isnt as healthy as it is? Is it serving as a "trap plant" for another plant that I am growing? Is another plant that I am growing sending pests to the infected plant because of the vice versa of the trap plant situation?

Without knowing the plant or the bug breh, to me, it is all philosophy, because your practice is rooted in some philosophy somewhere.

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

It's not actually late to start anything depending on where you live. If you start ASAP like this weekend you can eat a lot of greens this time of year and through the winter. You can start all the lettuces and spinaches you want and eat those now ish (within 2mos) and have a good harvest of harder leafy greens like kale and collards that can go after your first frost.

Last year I was able to take my purple kale out through the entire winter, we had a mild winter in DC, and then have it go to seeds in spring. Deer ate all my seeds though.

From here USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map
You'll be able to determine what your general climate is like and what you can plant. I usually get all my seeds from rareseeds.com I'm focused right now on regenerating my seedstock so things like this in the future I'll be able to pitch to you directly instead of sending you to them.

From the grocery store, you can go to your fancier ones and they may have like the basil starters in those plastic bags, buy that and transplant it into your soil and see how it does. If it really starts going off in like 2weeks then we can go more in depth about what you want to grow and how you are able to do it within the constraints of whatever your environment is like. this process can be repeated with ginger, bok choy, turmeric, garlic, and sweet potatoes. You have to go to the organic grocery stores because reg grocery varieties aren't the best to propagate or grow from seed.

The chop and drop was right. You should also start a compost pile or bin with some soil from your yard. Roughly, just layer soil and waste, soil and waste. Keep it moist but not wet, and let it dry out from time to time. Next spring it could be ready to use for your garden but spring 2021 it really will be where u want it to grow really good food.

Spoiler: no doxxing

I have started a podcast for black people growing anything I go into a lot of depth about composts. Check it out Jìgìjìgì EP 006 – Compost

You can also start wheat and barley and stuff for harvest next summer!! Imagine growing your own bread!!

 

[Rawtid]

I did a container garden this year and I had a little green pepper grow, but that was about it. I actually didn’t have the time to nurture it like I needed.

My aunt hipped me to a community garden, so I may try that next year or build a small raised bed.

 

[HarlemHottie]

It's not actually late to start anything depending on where you live. If you start ASAP like this weekend you can eat a lot of greens this time of year and through the winter. You can start all the lettuces and spinaches you want and eat those now ish (within 2mos) and have a good harvest of harder leafy greens like kale and collards that can go after your first frost.

Last year I was able to take my purple kale out through the entire winter, we had a mild winter in DC, and then have it go to seeds in spring. Deer ate all my seeds though.

From here USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map
You'll be able to determine what your general climate is like and what you can plant. I usually get all my seeds from rareseeds.com I'm focused right now on regenerating my seedstock so things like this in the future I'll be able to pitch to you directly instead of sending you to them.

From the grocery store, you can go to your fancier ones and they may have like the basil starters in those plastic bags, buy that and transplant it into your soil and see how it does. If it really starts going off in like 2weeks then we can go more in depth about what you want to grow and how you are able to do it within the constraints of whatever your environment is like. this process can be repeated with ginger, bok choy, turmeric, garlic, and sweet potatoes. You have to go to the organic grocery stores because reg grocery varieties aren't the best to propagate or grow from seed.

The chop and drop was right. You should also start a compost pile or bin with some soil from your yard. Roughly, just layer soil and waste, soil and waste. Keep it moist but not wet, and let it dry out from time to time. Next spring it could be ready to use for your garden but spring 2021 it really will be where u want it to grow really good food.

Spoiler: no doxxing

I have started a podcast for black people growing anything I go into a lot of depth about composts. Check it out Jìgìjìgì EP 006 – Compost

I will definitely listen to your podcast, thank you!

Supposedly I'm in zone 7b, first frost around November 1. The property is ours, but we're not moving in until Oct 1. We go every weekend tho, so i might try to get some greens started this Friday. But bc we're only there on the weekends for now, I'm learning how to build self watering containers.

Should i buy plants or stay some seeds? We do know the lady at the local community garden, maybe she'll hook me up with some plants already acclimated.

I already picked out the compost bin i want. It spins.

Good point about growing our own bread, i just got a bread maker.

So sorry about your purple kale. I'm working on animal proofing too, cuz I'll be dammed if i do all that work and some disrespectful ass animals eat my shyt.