Official Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues Thread
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Technically she didn’t cause a point should be deducted and the fake out of bounds no point
To explain about Kreese and Silver's relationship.
Silver is suffering from PTSD due to the capture and torture that they dealt in Vietnam. Kreese saved Silver in 'Nam and vowed to be forever in his debt. After the events that happened in Karate Kid 3, Silver got therapy and thought his villainous actions from that movie was due to his toxic relationship with Kreese and disavowed that life and tried to mask his true nature for those past 30 plus years. So when Kreese, who is a master manipulator approached Silver those decades later, Kreese knew that Silver's lifestyle was a front and it isn't his true self, even if Silver doesn't see it. But with Silver PTSD bubbling underneath alongside his undying loyalty to Kreese, he was breaking apart. Silver didn't technically go 0 to 100, if you watch again, you can see him slowly cracking throughout the entire series. Silver is legitimately mentally ill. And a man who is mentally ill that has endless money and power just for Kreese continuing to poke the bear, you would expect him to explode into full villain mode.
Silver had it correct when he said, "everyone has a weakness and that weakness can be exploited". He admitted that his loyalty to Kreese was his weakness and it was holding him back to become free to who he always was inside. Kreese actually was the only one who could keep him in check and Silver needed to get Kreese out of the way to be who he truly is.
As for Kreese, Silver said Kreese's weakness was Johnny. The irony that Miguel saw with Johnny is that Johnny is more like Kreese than he wants to believe or accept. They have the same kind of father/son relationship. And Kreese in an odd way always loved Johnny like a son and Silver sensed that when Kreese told Silver to stop beating up Johnny. This was what incensed Silver because it was the first time he ever saw Kreese choosing MERCY. So, with the Tory match with Sam, Kreese was reflecting on the foul shyt he told Johnny and what he did to Johnny after he lost in the aftermath of the first Karate Kid. He felt guilty and took that guilt to let Tory choose however she wants to fight, which he really didn't say she shouldn't cheat, BTW... but he was indifferent because of how he felt what he done with Johnny. That's the connection there.
Silver had it correct when he said, "everyone has a weakness and that weakness can be exploited". He admitted that his loyalty to Kreese was his weakness and it was holding him back to become free to who he always was inside. Kreese actually was the only one who could keep him in check and Silver needed to get Kreese out of the way to be who he truly is.
As for Kreese, Silver said Kreese's weakness was Johnny. The irony that Miguel saw with Johnny is that Johnny is more like Kreese than he wants to believe or accept. They have the same kind of father/son relationship. And Kreese in an odd way always loved Johnny like a son and Silver sensed that when Kreese told Silver to stop beating up Johnny. This was what incensed Silver because it was the first time he ever saw Kreese choosing MERCY. So, with the Tory match with Sam, Kreese was reflecting on the foul shyt he told Johnny and what he did to Johnny after he lost in the aftermath of the first Karate Kid. He felt guilty and took that guilt to let Tory choose however she wants to fight, which he really didn't say she shouldn't cheat, BTW... but he was indifferent because of how he felt what he done with Johnny. That's the connection there.
Hawk losing to Demetri was just some shonen anime shyt, to make it make sense to me I just assumed he was too emotional, already winded by fighting a bunch of Miyagi-Do mooks and then had to chase Meat all around school.
I think he was under Miguel in season 1 but I agree that Hawk has always been a better fighter than Robby and has now surpassed Miguel. IMO going berserker style was what really got him most of his Ls.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
I think they are gonna write Miguel out the show.
he’s playing blue beetle in the dc movie
he’s playing blue beetle in the dc movie
Nah, he's in next season but if I'm not wrong about their ages I think this was the last AVK tournament for him and some of the main high school kids (Robby, Hawk, Demetri, Sam, etc).
I read they've started filming season 5 already and may already have a lot of it done. I bet he won't feature heavy, but he's too important of a character to write off.
Filming for S5 wrapped up a month ago. IIRC his Blue Beetle casting was pretty recent and they haven't started filming the movie yet so I don't think it messed with his Cobra Kai schedule.
Him and Moon's actress broke up, might be he been stress eating.
Mr. Riddim
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Tourney announcer earned his check. Dude was passionate as fukk.
Tourney announcer earned his check. Dude was passionate as fukk.
lmfaoo breh i hit the “dat boy good”
i would say the moment he kicks that wine bottle at his house, and accepts kreese's invite back.
once he reestablishes himself as kreese's co-sensei he starts to put in place his end game. Although I am making a big assumption that silver is well aware of how much kreese cares for johnny, since not long after he establishes himself as co-sensei, they have that weakness exercise/talk. That weakness talk is exactly where Silver decides to end Kreese
in KK3, silver doesn't really tell kreese how he'll turn daniel to train with him, just that he'll do it...so kreese wouldn't really know that silver is playing him in a similar way
once he reestablishes himself as kreese's co-sensei he starts to put in place his end game. Although I am making a big assumption that silver is well aware of how much kreese cares for johnny, since not long after he establishes himself as co-sensei, they have that weakness exercise/talk. That weakness talk is exactly where Silver decides to end Kreese
in KK3, silver doesn't really tell kreese how he'll turn daniel to train with him, just that he'll do it...so kreese wouldn't really know that silver is playing him in a similar way
funkee
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I literally thought that same thing about the kenny actor last night. perfect choice for miles.