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First black superhero, first black female superhero, and first black-American superhero. #dope

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Misty Knight is the first black female superhero
 

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It's the problem when you don't have many Black writers working at the Big 2.

I'm starting believe a lot of these White male writers are intimidated and insecure when it comes to writing strong Black characters especially one like T'Challa who's not a stereotype and who doesn't fit in the same box that a lot of other Black characters fall into(sidekick, street smarts but not book smart.etc).He's too good, too capable, so he has to be knocked down a few pegs.

Not saying all White writers are like this that's obviously not the case(he was created by white dudes after all). Liss did a good job with him and Ewing seems to get the character and respect him. But it seems guys like this are few and far between nowadays.

THIS. I hope they don't turn him into Finn from Star Wars to make white audience feel comfortable
 

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Love interest is ABSOLUTELY key. The A-Sexual Black Protagonist thing is LONG played out. T'Challa is one of the smartest characters in the Marvel Universe , THE richest character, and (Pause) tall, in shape, and handsome. If Tony Stark is getting women then T'Challa should have females like







When he walks in a room.
LMAO! Hence why i loved how Hudlin kept it thrill in that regard: young t'enzel had a harem of females he was messin with in his younger days (allegedly lol) and even had Shang Chi's drug lord father trying to marry his daughter/Shang's sister off to him... who despite hating her dad, was all on board b/c she knew BP was that dude. And he passed on her like naaah, i done ran through enough.

Plus, had other men's wives going googy eyed:



Just much better than that mr. piccolo shyt they try to have him on
 

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THIS. I hope they don't turn him into Finn from Star Wars to make white audience feel comfortable
We'll get an idea in Civil War, but so far Boseman has said the right things. He mentioned that T'Challa is more of a ladies man in the James Bond type of way and that he would bet on himself in regards to a Black Panther vs Captain America fight. And a few other quotes and things in interviews that has me cautiously optimistic but lowkey very optimistic about seeing breh on the big screen.
 

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LMAO! Hence why i loved how Hudlin kept it thrill in that regard: young t'enzel had a harem of females he was messin with in his younger days (allegedly lol) and even had Shang Chi's drug lord father trying to marry his daughter/Shang's sister off to him... who despite hating her dad, was all on board b/c she knew BP was that dude. And he passed on her like naaah, i done ran through enough.

Plus, had other men's wives going googy eyed:



Just much better than that mr. piccolo shyt they try to have him on

Damn, Piccolo status? :lolbron: And lol @ the sue / T'Challa thing. Writer love toying around with that.


At first, I felt a love interest wouldn't be necessary for the solo, but being that he's already being introduced in Civil War, I'm changing my position. Love interest all the way:obama:
 
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LMAO! Hence why i loved how Hudlin kept it thrill in that regard: young t'enzel had a harem of females he was messin with in his younger days (allegedly lol) and even had Shang Chi's drug lord father trying to marry his daughter/Shang's sister off to him... who despite hating her dad, was all on board b/c she knew BP was that dude. And he passed on her like naaah, i done ran through enough.

Plus, had other men's wives going googy eyed:



Just much better than that mr. piccolo shyt they try to have him on
Hudlin doin the most :russ:
 
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How is Finn in the least comparable ? :dwillhuh:


Finn was marketed as a lead in the film and spent the entire movie getting his ass kicked by almost every character in the film. He was a lying, cowardly, loser who was used as comic relief and a prop to show how great the white girl was by comparison.

Star Wars is now a Disney property. If Disney thinks that a black "Hero" like Finn is acceptable in today's society then fans of Black Panther have good goddamn reason to be hesitant about how the Black Panther could be chumped. He's spent the past 4 years or so of his comic incarnation suffering disgusting L's, to the point where he's been written out of character JUST to make his L's that much more debilitating.

We will NOT be accepting of that, point blank period.


T'Challa is a King. One of the 10 smartest characters in the Marvel universe, the richest, and therefore the one with the most resources of any "Earthbound" character. He should be treated with the care and respect that Priest and Hudlin gave him. Why do you think we've been going on for pages and pages about his rogues gallery? His love interest? His peripheral characters? The script? The director? Because we want to make ABSOLUTELY sure that we don't get another Finn. Someone marketed as a Hero who turned out to be a complete and utter loser.

T'Challa is the FIRST black comic book character that will be given a solo movie of THIS scale. Spawn and Blade; War Machine and Falcon; it all adds up to THIS. Wesley Snipes was damn near blackballed from Hollywood for going to war with David Goyer and New Line over them neutering Blade in favor of trying to make an all-Cac Night Stalkers spin off (the idea flopped). Tod Mcfarlane has been trying for over 15 years to get another Spawn movie off the ground, to the point where he's even tried to move the character into the back ground to make the two (white) detectives the leads ]. War Machine is Tony Starks sidekick. Falcon is Cap's sidekick, they will NEVER have their own movies.

T'Challa is our one shot, and if he is not handled properly he'll be our ONLY shot. A Black King of an UNCONQUERED AFRICAN NATION who Doesnt c00n or serve as the sidekick to another white hero. A man who can kick Steve Rogers ass, outthink Bruce Banner, and outspend Tony Stark. THATS the T'Challa we want. Not another bumble-fukk sidekick.
 

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Finn was marketed as a lead in the film and spent the entire movie getting his ass kicked by almost every character in the film. He was a lying, cowardly, loser who was used as comic relief and a prop to show how great the white girl was by comparison.

Star Wars is now a Disney property. If Disney thinks that a black "Hero" like Finn is acceptable in today's society then fans of Black Panther have good goddamn reason to be hesitant about how the Black Panther could be chumped. He's spent the past 4 years or so of his comic incarnation suffering disgusting L's, to the point where he's been written out of character JUST to make his L's that much more debilitating.

We will NOT be accepting of that, point blank period.


T'Challa is a King. One of the 10 smartest characters in the Marvel universe, the richest, and therefore the one with the most resources of any "Earthbound" character. He should be treated with the care and respect that Priest and Hudlin gave him. Why do you think we've been going on for pages and pages about his rogues gallery? His love interest? His peripheral characters? The script? The director? Because we want to make ABSOLUTELY sure that we don't get another Finn. Someone marketed as a Hero who turned out to be a complete and utter loser.

T'Challa is the FIRST black comic book character that will be given a solo movie of THIS scale. Spawn and Blade; War Machine and Falcon; it all adds up to THIS. Wesley Snipes was damn near blackballed from Hollywood for going to war with David Goyer and New Line over them neutering Blade in favor of trying to make an all-Cac Night Stalkers spin off (the idea flopped). Tod Mcfarlane has been trying for over 15 years to get another Spawn movie off the ground, to the point where he's even tried to move the character into the back ground to make the two (white) detectives the leads ]. War Machine is Tony Starks sidekick. Falcon is Cap's sidekick, they will NEVER have their own movies.

T'Challa is our one shot, and if he is not handled properly he'll be our ONLY shot. A Black King of an UNCONQUERED AFRICAN NATION who Doesnt c00n or serve as the sidekick to another white hero. A man who can kick Steve Rogers ass, outthink Bruce Banner, and outspend Tony Stark. THATS the T'Challa we want. Not another bumble-fukk sidekick.

:salute:

Real talk, you would think Marvel would give Wesley Snipes a role in this movie since, he's been one of the prominent ones to try to get this movie made in 1990s even before he received the script for Blade. I think his familiar face could add something to the cast of the movie.
 

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Finn was marketed as a lead in the film and spent the entire movie getting his ass kicked by almost every character in the film. He was a lying, cowardly, loser who was used as comic relief and a prop to show how great the white girl was by comparison.

Star Wars is now a Disney property. If Disney thinks that a black "Hero" like Finn is acceptable in today's society then fans of Black Panther have good goddamn reason to be hesitant about how the Black Panther could be chumped. He's spent the past 4 years or so of his comic incarnation suffering disgusting L's, to the point where he's been written out of character JUST to make his L's that much more debilitating.

We will NOT be accepting of that, point blank period.


T'Challa is a King. One of the 10 smartest characters in the Marvel universe, the richest, and therefore the one with the most resources of any "Earthbound" character. He should be treated with the care and respect that Priest and Hudlin gave him. Why do you think we've been going on for pages and pages about his rogues gallery? His love interest? His peripheral characters? The script? The director? Because we want to make ABSOLUTELY sure that we don't get another Finn. Someone marketed as a Hero who turned out to be a complete and utter loser.

T'Challa is the FIRST black comic book character that will be given a solo movie of THIS scale. Spawn and Blade; War Machine and Falcon; it all adds up to THIS. Wesley Snipes was damn near blackballed from Hollywood for going to war with David Goyer and New Line over them neutering Blade in favor of trying to make an all-Cac Night Stalkers spin off (the idea flopped). Tod Mcfarlane has been trying for over 15 years to get another Spawn movie off the ground, to the point where he's even tried to move the character into the back ground to make the two (white) detectives the leads ]. War Machine is Tony Starks sidekick. Falcon is Cap's sidekick, they will NEVER have their own movies.

T'Challa is our one shot, and if he is not handled properly he'll be our ONLY shot. A Black King of an UNCONQUERED AFRICAN NATION who Doesnt c00n or serve as the sidekick to another white hero. A man who can kick Steve Rogers ass, outthink Bruce Banner, and outspend Tony Stark. THATS the T'Challa we want. Not another bumble-fukk sidekick.
No Finn was a original character who was written For this movie and played by someone black ( despite the fact that it's Star Wars and traditional race doesn't apply ) black panther is a character with history and characterization to draw from . It's not the same at all it would be completely rewriting a character to make BP anything like Finn

Edit : just remembered who you are from the Star Wars thread :snoop: forget I'm out no need to rehash this debate
 
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Finn was marketed as a lead in the film and spent the entire movie getting his ass kicked by almost every character in the film. He was a lying, cowardly, loser who was used as comic relief and a prop to show how great the white girl was by comparison.

Star Wars is now a Disney property. If Disney thinks that a black "Hero" like Finn is acceptable in today's society then fans of Black Panther have good goddamn reason to be hesitant about how the Black Panther could be chumped. He's spent the past 4 years or so of his comic incarnation suffering disgusting L's, to the point where he's been written out of character JUST to make his L's that much more debilitating.

We will NOT be accepting of that, point blank period.


T'Challa is a King. One of the 10 smartest characters in the Marvel universe, the richest, and therefore the one with the most resources of any "Earthbound" character. He should be treated with the care and respect that Priest and Hudlin gave him. Why do you think we've been going on for pages and pages about his rogues gallery? His love interest? His peripheral characters? The script? The director? Because we want to make ABSOLUTELY sure that we don't get another Finn. Someone marketed as a Hero who turned out to be a complete and utter loser.

T'Challa is the FIRST black comic book character that will be given a solo movie of THIS scale. Spawn and Blade; War Machine and Falcon; it all adds up to THIS. Wesley Snipes was damn near blackballed from Hollywood for going to war with David Goyer and New Line over them neutering Blade in favor of trying to make an all-Cac Night Stalkers spin off (the idea flopped). Tod Mcfarlane has been trying for over 15 years to get another Spawn movie off the ground, to the point where he's even tried to move the character into the back ground to make the two (white) detectives the leads ]. War Machine is Tony Starks sidekick. Falcon is Cap's sidekick, they will NEVER have their own movies.

T'Challa is our one shot, and if he is not handled properly he'll be our ONLY shot. A Black King of an UNCONQUERED AFRICAN NATION who Doesnt c00n or serve as the sidekick to another white hero. A man who can kick Steve Rogers ass, outthink Bruce Banner, and outspend Tony Stark. THATS the T'Challa we want. Not another bumble-fukk sidekick.
The difference between Finn and T'challa is that T'challa is clearly the lead so the same thing won't happen because the movie is called Black Panther while Star Wars wasn't called Finn.

I do agree that they did Finn dirty after the marketing and shyt made him look badass
 
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The difference between Finn and T'challa is that T'challa is clearly the lead so the same thing won't happen because the movie is called Black Panther while Star Wars wasn't called Finn.

I do agree that they did Finn dirty after the marketing and shyt made him look badass


Again you cannot operate under the ASSUMPTION that it won't happen. This is why us fans are going over everything BP related with a fine tooth comb. We are dealing with an industry that has a long and detailed HISTORY of pushing emasculated, unintelligent, comic relief personas upon token black characters. In the rare case where they are not portrayed as such they are token vanilla sidekicks who exist for nothing other than to provide motivation for the main white character's heroism.

This is the first movie outside of the Will Smith movies from the 2000's that will feature a black male lead in the role of an Alpha. It will also be the first Action movie with a high budget to feature an majority African American cast (besides, After Earth, which was of course a Will Smith movie) It HAS to be done correctly, even a HINT of fukkery should be viewed with utmost prejudice. Which is why there was unholy hell from fans who called bullshyt on that preposterous EW cover which had T'Challa uttering that gay ass "Meow" line on the cover:stopitslime:,while in contrast, when Dr Strange got his cover, there was absolutely nothing but the image of a hero, treated with mysticism, nobility, and respect:comeon:


It's the same reason why the "Black Panther movie doesn't need to be directed by a black director" crowd are either c00ns or naive. We NEED a director who truly understands what T'Challa, as a BLACK hero represents. And it doesn't mean he has to be killing the KKK and yelling "fukk WHITEY" every scene, it means he has to be portrayed dignified, brilliant, brave, and noble. We need a director who when the suits come in with silly ass notes and suggestions like the awful and offensive "Droid Please" line, can call bullshyt. We need a director who UNDERSTANDS what black excellence looks like, what the dynamic between black love interests looks like. Ava Duverney could portray that. Ryan Coogler could portray that. No white director could EVER portray that, hell I can't even think of one who would truly even want to try.
 
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