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Saw it yesterday.

Movie was good, however there were many occasions that could've catapulted it to epic. Either the dialogue lacked punch or the score was middling.

MBJ really had the opportunity to etch himself in CBM history as an amazing villain. If I'm an actor, I'm salivating over playing a character like Killmonger over any other character in the movie. His moods and motives covered the entire gamut. Beautiful complexity...at least on paper. I didn't appreciate his approach to the role. It wasn't bad. It was just...ok? Idk why they went with the cocky/swagged/talk-out-side-of-mouth approach when he's supposed to be some elite military special operatives soldier, mentally equipped to overtake governments. Also felt like he lacked the chops to knock his dialogue out the park. His throne(?) room, warrior pit, and "vision" scene (as he's obtain BP powers) should have been home runs.

Should've studied Terrence Stamp's and Michael Shannon's approach to General Zod. Classic performances to a character whos archetype is very similar to Killmonger.


I felt the same way about MBJ, but in some ways, he was representative of the stereotypical African American.

"Swag" is part of our culture.After years of feeling displaced/left out, we naturally created our own value system.

For a people with so little, it's normally things anybody can have.Shyt like "Swag", being a tough guy, knowing how to dress...etc

I feel like swag was born to combat hopelessness. MBJ's Killmonger carried some of those elements, but like you said,

he lacked the sophistication to balance it all out(The elite military operative mentally equipped to overthrow governments etc.etc..).

He seemed more like an angry/uncultivated juvenile.like I said, his performance was technically basic, yet metaphorically deep.

While I don't think his delivery was all that great, I was consumed by his anger. There was an inescapable truth in his anger.

To the point of being cathartic.That's the redeeming quality in his performance IMO
 

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But being cereal, all these think pieces been giving me a headache. Everybody gotta be extra blowing up my timeline with bullshyt opinions. :camby:

In the words of chadwick boseman "people gotta be careful being racists against themselves".

I think the people who write these things may dislike themselves if they have to dig deep or see everything about this movie as some sort of negative towards black people.
 
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I felt the same way about MBJ, but in some ways, he was representative of the stereotypical African American.

"Swag" is part of our culture.After years of feeling displaced/left out, we naturally created our own value system.

For a people with so little, it's normally things anybody can have.Shyt like "Swag", being a tough guy, knowing how to dress...etc

I feel like swag was born to combat hopelessness. MBJ's Killmonger carried some of those elements, but like you said,

he lacked the sophistication to balance it all out(The elite military operative mentally equipped to overthrow governments etc.etc..).

He seemed more like an angry/uncultivated juvenile.like I said, his performance was technically basic, yet metaphorically deep.

While I don't think his delivery was all that great, I was consumed by his anger. There was an inescapable truth in his anger.

To the point of being cathartic.That's the redeeming quality in his performance IMO

Being military ops was just a means to an end. He was clear (or at least written) about being true to himself. He wasn't going to clean up who he was because of who he was around.

What actor did you have in mind tho?
 

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Just caught this at the movies.

Only thing that I can is Dope film :wow:

Edit: I really fukked w Killmonger.

I wonder if he’ll be brought back, the theater was really rocking with him at parts
 
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Being military ops was just a means to an end. He was clear (or at least written) about being true to himself. He wasn't going to clean up who he was because of who he was around.

What actor did you have in mind tho?

I think somebody like Chiwetel Ejiofor could've brought a lil more gravity to that role
 
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Let me ask a stupid ass question since I don’t read comics. If Black Panther is king of Wakanda in Africa how is he wrapped up in Avengers and other Marvel comic plots? Seems like he’d have other stuff to do like rule his kingdom far away from America. If his metal or country isn't getting messed with how does anything involve him?
 

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I'm still iffy on MBJ as Killmonger

His character was so metaphorically profound/brilliant, it's blinding us from his average performance.

I know they already casted him as Mordo in Doctor Strange, but just imagine somebody like Chiwetel Ejiofor as Killmonger?

MBJ as Killmonger was a good buffer for Disney, tho.He's one of them wholesome, friendly face type dudes
I actually see where you’re coming from. I’m a big fan of MBJ, I think it was his voice at times (although his acting was A1).
Usually the villain has more bass in his voice. Movie was still a 9/10 :blessed:
 

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Let me ask a stupid ass question since I don’t read comics. If Black Panther is king of Wakanda in Africa how is he wrapped up in Avengers and other Marvel comic plots? Seems like he’d have other stuff to do like rule his kingdom far away from America. If his metal or country isn't getting messed with how does anything involve him?

As king of a country he has to observe other countries and make sure they're not any sort of threat to his kingdom. For example, he joined the avengers because he wanted to make sure they weren't up to any suspicious shyt. He also has an american ex girlfriend so his villains usually kidnap her and he has to go there and save her, sometimes needing the help of the avengers or it's the avengers that sometimes need his help to run the team.
 

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I think somebody like Chiwetel Ejiofor could've brought a lil more gravity to that role
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I think MBJ great/perfect for that kind of Killmonger :yeshrug:

Aldis Hoge would have been just as good imo.

If they went with an older and more hardened version then yea Chiwetel would have been great. Too bad he's stuck in the Doctor Strange storyline.
 
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Let me ask a stupid ass question since I don’t read comics. If Black Panther is king of Wakanda in Africa how is he wrapped up in Avengers and other Marvel comic plots? Seems like he’d have other stuff to do like rule his kingdom far away from America. If his metal or country isn't getting messed with how does anything involve him?


He joined the Avengers to spy on them. He has contingency plans to beat every single one of them and he even has plans to beat Galactus (in Ultimates he did)

Him and Reed Richards are good friends so sometimes he helps the FF. He’s spent time taking over as Daredevil when he was de-powered and needed time away from Wakanda to find himself.

He usually involves himself in huge world threatening events because of course, the fate of the world directly involves the fate of Wakanda
 

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He joined the Avengers to spy on them. He has contingency plans to beat every single one of them and he even has plans to beat Galactus (in Ultimates he did)

Him and Reed Richards are good friends so sometimes he helps the FF. He’s spent time taking over as Daredevil when he was de-powered and needed time away from Wakanda to find himself.

He usually involves himself in huge world threatening events because of course, the fate of the world directly involves the fate of Wakanda

Yep like when hulk came to destroy the world, he helped the Fantastic Four try to take him down. However if it's nationwide shyt like that dumb ass civil war then he's not taking part in it at all. That's america's business lol
 
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I actually see where you’re coming from. I’m a big fan of MBJ, I think it was his voice at times (although his acting was A1).
Usually the villain has more bass in his voice. Movie was still a 9/10 :blessed:

No doubt.Even tho I felt MBJ's performance could've been a lil stronger, the movie was still a spiritual experience.

I gave it an 8.5 out of 10, but honestly, I don't know how to rate it....The "Uncle"/"Brother" allegory reminded me of some

Supreme Wisdom shyt.....5% brehs probably know what I'm talking about
 
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