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was on the internet trying to find some dope artwork to save on my phone and found this reddit post through google that led me to this artist's instagram. and this is where things got bad. i clicked on the black panther's reddit to find more artwork and ended up finding one of the worst things i've ever read.

this is what cacs are getting from this fim:

If I had to describe Killmonger, I'd say he's half sympathetic backstory, and half black supremacist; funnily enough, a Black Panther. His entire motivation, as a villain, is "Lets use Wakanda technology to allow black people to rise up and overthrow their white colonialists, because I grew up as a ghetto kid, and I know the suffering of blacks in America." (Aka: Kill All the Whites and Establish Wakanda as a Dominant Power that Raises Black People above all others) They could've completely omitted this idea, because he already had another motivation, which was to go to Wakanda because he had never been there before, even though he was of royal blood, and take revenge on the current royalty because T'Challa's dad killed Killmonger's dad. All the racism commentary wasn't necessary, because all it did was implicate that if Wakanda were a real place, black people would destroy the whites.

You might be thinking, "Wouldn't that make him a good villain, because he possesses a negative quality that people want to see destroyed?" The issue with this thought is that Killmonger spouts all the common day rhetoric we hear on this issue, "Blacks have it super hard, we deserve better. White people are the problem, how they colonized us and stole our stuff." This sort of idea is justified positively on a daily basis, so who's going to disagree with this idea and consider it a negative quality? He's not a good villain, because his character just boils down to being another black guy with a chip on his shoulder because of his skin color.

Ironically, the main theme of this movie is not allowing the sins of past generations to dictate who you are and what you do, and not to let anyone judge or blame you for it. Hint hint. The final issue I had was that Wakanda acts as this idea for salvation for black people everywhere, because their lives suck so much everywhere else. The film plays up Wakanda as being superior to every other nation, is stationed in Africa, and can make black society better as a whole.....but Wakanda is fictional. It doesn't exist, so it seems like this sad posturing that an outside entity is going to swoop down and free blacks from all their problems, without any work on their own front.

Overall, Black Panther, to me, was an average superhero movie that could've been a much better superhero movie if they had stuck to political intrigue and royal bloodline conflicts. Killmonger was a much more interesting villain at that point, but just had to throw a helping of white guilt in there, because Black Panther -had- to be more than just a good superhero movie. It couldn't be another Guardians of the Galaxy, or Captain America: Civil War, or Spiderman: Homecoming, it had to change lives and be a battlecry for African Americans everywhere. Why? I dunno, maybe because people have an issue with our current president or something. Good job Donald, you messed up Black Panther for me!

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not gonna lie, i read that shyt and got hot. i wanna fukk this dikkhead up :martin: for all the dumb shyt them blavity woke nikkas was saying on twitter about this being for black people only you can somewhat understand why they were saying that shyt when you see cacs posting shyt like this.

dude called The Black Panther Party "black supremacists", made a false equivalence between killmonger's understandable motivations with what black people would do/have done if wakanda was a real place, then mockingly made reductionist observations regarding the plight of black people in this world and tried to paint the sentiment of "kill all the whites and establish black people above all others" as something black people deem as a positive and as a quality. Also, used Killmonger as an avatar to refer to black people that have grievances against white supremacy, its history and systems, as "another black with a chip on his shoulder because of his skin color". Disingenuously tried to absolve current white people that reap and enjoy the fruits of racism and white supremacy with this line "Ironically, the main theme of this movie is not allowing the sins of past generations to dictate who you are and what you do, and not to let anyone judge or blame you for it. Hint hint" . Uses Wakanda being a fictional Utopia as a negative, sad posturing, and proxy to say "blacks wanna be freed from all their problems without any work on their front" despite earlier in his post referring to a real civil rights organisation that was doing positive work in the community and was hindered and dismantled by the U.S government as "black supremacists", nevermind the fact that Wakanda serves as metaphor to our potential outside the spectrum and realms of slavery, white supremacy and colonialism.

fukking cacs man:snoop: this shyt ruined my morning i wanna put hands on this piece of shyt


Stop caring about what cacs think. Especially on something they can't relate to AT ALL.

That'd be like me caring what a cac thinks about the angle of my temp fade. :camby:
 

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Am I the only one that wanted Kilmonger to win :francis:

Coogler made it seem like Wakanda was scared of the outside world which I never felt from the comics it was more of an air of arrogance like the rest of the world is beneath them. You get some of that from Shuri but it was downplayed for comedic purposes and wasn't enough IMO
You didn't see that with Okoye?

"Guns. So primitive".
 

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Anybody know where to get the music from the film? Not the soundtrack I'm talking the instrumentasl used in the film.
 

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:noah: Might have to watch this a second time
Anybody know where to get the music from the film? Not the soundtrack I'm talking the instrumentasl used in the film.
You mean the film score? Spotify usually has all of them.
 

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At my second viewing now.

My first one was at a matinee.

This one, dashikis everywhere... even the black employees. So I know its gonna be lit in here :wow:


Hopefully they got them shyts from Africa and not China or Mexico:krs:



:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:


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:noah: Might have to watch this a second time

You mean the film score? Spotify usually has all of them.
EDIT: Yeah the score. found it under original score. Still can't find some of those hip hop beats that were used during the film. Not talking about Killa Mike/P beat though.
 
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Good review, praises the movie and objectively points out the flaws which is right on point.

I too agree that the second half of the movie should have been the center focus of the movie....You can tell the first half was the "marvel formula" intended to lure usual marvel fans in, but I think even tho the tone was different, the second half is the true heart of this movie, what you needed see. Claw was a cool character, but should have been much less of him and much more of Kilmonger
 

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After the 1st watch, I probably agree with brehs about Killmonger being right. After a 2nd watch, he was clearly selfish and for his own purposes. He wasn't about Wakanda or Black folks. He will kill anyone who gets in his way.

He wants Black supremacy. This is the shyt we don't need or want. We need to end white supremacy, not continue the supremacy part. Evil has to go. From White, Black, and any other person. Neely says it best, we need JUSTICE!
:mjlol:
 
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