Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)
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wtf
The second time that this has happened
The real question is how are the do nothing democrats bringing their voters back from the dead?!?? THE WALKING DEAD ARE STEALING THE VOTE! Don’t let them, DO SOMETHING!!
Terrible.
My man is Jamaal Bowman.
He’s at House Freshman Orientation right now and he’s tellin me AOC does her own thing and that the other moderate Democrats don’t even fukk with none of the squad like that
I tell him to stop with the Socialism shyt and he’s telling me how he doesn’t blah blah blah.
2022 is right around the corner.
The Democrats have to get their messaging in order
He's one that definitely has to find his own voice. Right now he's on the squad's coattails but I'm confident that once he gets a feel for things he won't have to do everything they're doing.
Yep, that "socialist/socialism" label is toxic. Also, if many people had a choice, especially conservatives - they would choose to live under a right-wing fascist dictator than any hint of "socialism".
AOC and the Squad have got to realize that they would get curb-stomped if they didn't run in their sapphire blue districts.
You know damn well FB ain't doing anything. They'll probably give Trump a bullhorn
Exactly.
This is tricky territory. These Republicans pounce on shyt and just keep hittin people in the head with the same stuff and Democrats stay on their heels reacting.
Socialism is a no go. Get that word outta here. They need to really come up with a strategy to deal the Cubans in Florida..
It's a wrap for the future
DJ Paul's Arm
Veteran
I worry they take both house and senate and impeach Biden on some bs.
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
I sympathize with progressives but they suck with messaging its annoying. If AOC was running in a swing district in Florida or Michigan she would get crushed. Hell if she ran in a swing district in upstate she would get crushed. The idea to is promote your ideal in a way that benefits the working class but not naming it socialism. Same shyt with police reform. Stop saying defund the police. Instead say end qualified immunity, have independents oversight committees for police, have police unions pay the cost in police brutality cases not tax payers, demilitarize the police, etc. Just the branding is what sucks. It comes from the same belief that they rather sound right rather deal with the messaging.
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Wouldn't surprise me at all
You're right: Karl Rove laid out the entire plan in great specificity in his March 2010 Wall Street Journal piece. He made it very clear that when you draw the lines, you make the rules--and in flashing neon lights made clear that the Republicans intended to do exactly that. The Democrats not only lacked the imagination or vision to come up with a plan like this, but they failed to defend against it even when the playbook was published in one of the biggest newspapers in the country. Jankowski told me he couldn't believe that he never ran into Democratic groups spending money in these states that fall. Steve Israel, who took over the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee after the 2010 debacle, told me the Democrats "whistled past the graveyard." It was severe political malpractice, and it had the consequence of handcuffing Obama's agenda in Congress.Damn, breh...
And the Census was this year.
The political "smart set" in the media and the capital, however, has long resisted the idea that gerrymandering matters. They see it as part of the game. They look for a counterintuitive way to explain it, like the "Big Sort" theory that like-minded people choose to live around like-minded people. The Republicans knew better--they knew that drawing the lines meant making the rules. They knew that staring down a demographic barrel, they had to change the rules if they wanted to win. And the amount of energy and money the brightest minds in the party spent on this in 2010 and then again drawing the lines in 2011 should help put the "Big Sort" theory to bed. We have been sorted.
The smart set that denies this also doesn't understand how profoundly the technology changed between 2000 and 2010, let alone between 1990 and 2010. In 1990 and even in 2000, the computers and the data sets were primitive. In some cases, they were still laying out actual parchment maps and using markers. By 2010, programs like Maptitude--and all of the public data sets that are available, as well as private data sets that the parties can purchase and add on to Maptitude--made it as easy as clicking a mouse to shift a line one block in any direction. And the data was so good, and our partisanship had hardened in such a way as to make it pretty clear how individual blocks vote, that you could see how shifting the lines would likely shift the results. As a result, you can draw districts so precisely that they might even look like competitive 51-49 districts, but they can still be reliable partisan performers. It is a completely different world. The Republicans know this. The Democrats and the media are still catching up.
This is how the GOP rigged Congress: The secret plan that handcuffed Obama's presidency, but backfired in Donald Trump
trying to get cubans to be democrats is a waste of time. weve been burned so many times with that demographic, at this point we shouldn’t be investing resources that could go elsewhere into trying to get cubans on our side
if we really want florida we should be investing more in the other latino groups like puerto ricans, mexicans and dominicans, haitians, and african-americans there. the cubans aint happening, they are too right-wing. we need to start thinking of florida cubans as white voters, not latino voters