Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

TheDarceKnight

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Thing is, none of that is stopping people for voting for Bernie, people just didn't vote for him. The "energy" has to materialize into actually voting.

You're pretty much saying that Bernie only had a chance with a bloated field of centrist candidates that were going to drop out anyway?
I'm not even disagreeing with you breh. I have no idea what would've happened. I'm just saying that we ran this experiment we're running today back in 2016 and lost, and we came damn close to losing today. I don't see why it would've been an awful idea to put the energy behind Bernie.

The GOP gets their team in fukking line when there's energy around a candidate. There was energy around Bernie. It was there. I know it didn't turn into enough votes, but the DNC could have done a lot more to rally their team around Bernie when they saw he had the energy. They damn new fought Bernie harder in 2016 and 2020 than they fought Trump. They fought like tooth and nail in the part, and on MSNBC and CNN, to make sure Bernie looked like a loser. They would try and spin the runner up in all the primaries as the actual winner instead of Bernie, etc.

I just don't see the harm in trying a different candidate. Clearly the American people are starving for something different. They've voted for a con man buffoon twice because they so desperately are sick of generic politicians. You can't tell me that you don't think people would rally around a candidate if their party told them to fall in line, especially if that candidate was offering MASSIVELY favorable platforms that all Americans want by large margins.

More than 50% of Republicans want M4A and you don't think that would resonate in this country during a Pandemic? :mjtf:87% of Dems want it. Or fine. Don't run Bernie but at least steal his policy positions because they're massively popular even if he's not the guy to implement them.
 

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Great thread, progressives generally have subpar persuasive skills. In many ways they remind me of tech bros and libertarians in that they mistakenly think being "right" is more than enough.

So people know trump is full of shyt and lies, but they like the fact that he comes off persuasive and arrogant.

Mayor Pete might be good for consideration next go around.

He at least was able to own Faux news, before they could even set up a rebuttal and gotcha moment.
 

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:hhh:

White youth.

Yeah I think reports of Trump running up the black vote were greatly exaggerated :hhh:
 

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Yeah and Bernie might have done better with Mexicans in Texas but he would have still lost Florida most likely.
and doing better with texicans wouldn't have closed the 6 point gap much (which i doubt they would have gone for him in great numbers anyway because the texicans that went for trump are the bootstraps type). and if he did have any gains with them it might have been lost with other groups.
 

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im still not really convinced at trump making significant inroads with black voters, but all the signs suggested that if he was overperforming with black voters it was younger voters who have been disillusioned with the dem party over the last ten years. older black voters i think were solidly democratic
That's fair. I'm inclined to agree actually. That's my gut as well.
 

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Yet you still have shea butter idiots like Jemele Hill on that divide and conquer bullshyt.
I agree. A lot of stuff Jemele said no matter true or false she could have kept to herself. At this point it only caused more division on such a public forum. Black people need to go back to the days when we kept some conversations at the kitchen table. Everything is not for public consumption or to be said in mixed company.
 
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