Official Better Call Saul Season 5 Thread

[gluvnast]

Huh?

The Gene timeline we've seen so far can't be happening during "El Camino"....due to the simple fact that "El Camino" took place over a few days directly after the events of "Felina".

Gene has been at Cinnabon for close to 2 months, as of the season 2 flash forward in "BCS". Like I said, the finale of "Breaking Bad" happened early September. The Rich Eisen podcast in season 2 of "BCS" is from the end of October. So that alone kills that idea.

Lastly, you're taking the quote out of context. He didn't just say "you made your own luck". Jesse was trying to gain sympathy talking about he'd been held captive and tortured and Ed said:



In other words, you are where you are because of the decisions you made. Same as Walt. Same as Saul.

Fred.

I was speaking before El Camino... before the series finale of Breaking Bad. The Gene scenes were during the period when Walt was in exile in NH.

 

[gluvnast]

Also, using this as proof is little proof of the EXACT DATE. There wasn't any confirmation of the EXACT DATE only the EXACT YEAR which was 2010. So suggesting the events happened a full month after Breaking Bad... it still could be still before the finale.

 

[gluvnast]

And another thing we may honestly take into account that even thought the podcast is CONFIRMED to be in 2010... Gilliagan, Gould or even Rich Eisen confirmed that the specific date of the podcast was meant for that specific day of scene with Gene.

I say that, because of the fact that even though the Breaking Bad SHOW began in 2008, we know that the actual timeline of Breaking Bad begins in 2009 on Walter White's 50th birthday. I say that to say this.... their own TIMELINE should be taken for a grain of salt. If Walter White is born September 7th, 1959 then his 50th birthday would be September 7th, 2009. Which means the EVENTS from his 50th birthday to his 52nd birthday is from 2009-2011!!

Again, only pointing this out because it occurred to me even MORE that this was before WALT's death and we been using the timeline all wrong to begin with.

 

[FaTaL]

 

[FaTaL]

And another thing we may honestly take into account that even thought the podcast is CONFIRMED to be in 2010... Gilliagan, Gould or even Rich Eisen confirmed that the specific date of the podcast was meant for that specific day of scene with Gene.

I say that, because of the fact that even though the Breaking Bad SHOW began in 2008, we know that the actual timeline of Breaking Bad begins in 2009 on Walter White's 50th birthday. I say that to say this.... their own TIMELINE should be taken for a grain of salt. If Walter White is born September 7th, 1959 then his 50th birthday would be September 7th, 2009. Which means the EVENTS from his 50th birthday to his 52nd birthday is from 2009-2011!!

Again, only pointing this out because it occurred to me even MORE that this was before WALT's death and we been using the timeline all wrong to begin with.

Accomplished a-lot in two years

 

[Legalese]

Mike yelling at his granddaughter

thats like child abuse for cacs

 

[hex]

I was speaking before El Camino... before the series finale of Breaking Bad. The Gene scenes were during the period when Walt was in exile in NH.

The only Gene scene before the finale and "El Camino" is possibly the very first scene with Gene.

The second scene with Gene is the one with the podcast from 2010.

Also, using this as proof is little proof of the EXACT DATE. There wasn't any confirmation of the EXACT DATE only the EXACT YEAR which was 2010. So suggesting the events happened a full month after Breaking Bad... it still could be still before the finale.

The podcast is from October 21st, 2010. Rich Eisen said "you guys wanted a specific date" and they said "yes".

Now, if you're asking did Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould mention October 21st in that interview....no....but you can Google the Rich Eisen podcast from that year and date and match the audio to "BCS".

So yeah....it's October 21st, 2010.

And another thing we may honestly take into account that even thought the podcast is CONFIRMED to be in 2010... Gilliagan, Gould or even Rich Eisen confirmed that the specific date of the podcast was meant for that specific day of scene with Gene.

I say that, because of the fact that even though the Breaking Bad SHOW began in 2008, we know that the actual timeline of Breaking Bad begins in 2009 on Walter White's 50th birthday. I say that to say this.... their own TIMELINE should be taken for a grain of salt. If Walter White is born September 7th, 1959 then his 50th birthday would be September 7th, 2009. Which means the EVENTS from his 50th birthday to his 52nd birthday is from 2009-2011!!

Again, only pointing this out because it occurred to me even MORE that this was before WALT's death and we been using the timeline all wrong to begin with.

Walt was born in 1958.

Fred.

 

[FaTaL]

 

[gluvnast]

The only Gene scene before the finale and "El Camino" is possibly the very first scene with Gene.

The second scene with Gene is the one with the podcast from 2010.



The podcast is from October 21st, 2010. Rich Eisen said "you guys wanted a specific date" and they said "yes".

Now, if you're asking did Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould mention October 21st in that interview....no....but you can Google the Rich Eisen podcast from that year and date and match the audio to "BCS".

So yeah....it's October 21st, 2010.



Walt was born in 1958.

Fred.

On the divorce papers it said 1959....

 

[gluvnast]

Walt was born in 1958.

Fred.

 

[jackswstd]

Rewatching the first episode and Lalo eludes to Gus possibly being gay, he says "he might carry a grudge since my uncle put a bullet in his little boyfriend's head". I know that's been rumored since BB.

 

[hex]

On the divorce papers it said 1959....

That's one of the best known continuity errors on "Breaking Bad". Hell, off the top of my head I could probably name 10 more.

He was born in 1958. Otherwise the entire time line of "BB" and "BCS" makes no sense.

I guess this is the part where you say "if they screwed up the continuity of 'BB', how do we know they didn't do the same thing for 'BCS'?"....well, because the writers said they're trying to be more specific with the dates and times so as to avoid what happened on "BB".

Fred.

 

[gluvnast]

That's one of the best known continuity errors on "Breaking Bad". Hell, off the top of my head I could probably name 10 more.

He was born in 1958. Otherwise the entire time line of "BB" and "BCS" makes no sense.

I guess this is the part where you say "if they screwed up the continuity of 'BB', how do we know they didn't do the same thing for 'BCS'?"....well, because the writers said they're trying to be more specific with the dates and times so as to avoid what happened on "BB".

Fred.

Vince Gilligan only acknowledged ONE continuity error from Breaking Bad that he has to figure out fitting for Better Call Saul and that was Saul's marriages. Trying to ensure the years match up wasn't ever one of the continuity errors that he acknowledged. That said, Breaking Bad had a gain of mistakes and inaccuracies throughout the series. Back to the series finale, one should asked that if it was still WINTERTIME in New Hampshire (as you can tell from the SNOW) how is it that Walt returned to Albuquerque on his birthday which was still technically SUMMER? There's a time gap within that alone.

The point is that you feel so SURE that Vince Gilligan and his writing team are that accurate in Better Call Saul to the point of having a podcast to justify a specific DATE when they been imperfect throughout the entire SERIES of Breaking Bad. If Gilligan said that was the SPECIFIC DATE of the podcast then we can roll with that, but he did not. He only said that was Rich Eisen's podcast was used just to justify the YEAR only. Also, where did anyone from the show acknowledging the Walter White's birth date is INACCURATE? The series began in 2008, but they never said the story began in 2008. For what we definitely know is that Breaking Bad spanned for two years from Walt's 50th to 52nd birthday and we got a definitive date of his birth being Sept. 7, 1959. There's nothing that Gilligan, or Peter Gould, the showrunners saying that was a mistake.

So again, there is a chance that Walter White was still ALIVE during those flash forwards of Gene. Vince Gilligan put it out there as a possibility. There's no acknowledgement by them that Walter White's birthdate was an accidental mistake (which I do not think they would made that type of error, in comparison to the other continuity errors... typing the definitive date wasn't some "oops"...if that was the case then your ENTIRE dispute about the podcast being an accidental date is out the window as well. So it can be justifiably said that, if Breaking Bad's story REALLY ends in 2011, and not 2010, then timeline of Gene and Walt in exile would make more sense. The fact both take place during the winter of 2010-2011 would make sense and therefore that podcast being in existence make a lot of sense, as well as what Ed said in El Camino to Jesse in the aftermath makes total sense as both Gene and Walt took their eventual fates into their own hands which Ed was telling Jesse to do.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I'm back on episode 1 of season 5. Lalo is smart but he ain't as smart as Gus.

Gus is not to be outdone in the long game.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Damn brehs, that inevitable Kim and Jimmy/Saul breakup is going to be vicious. Once he loses her, that's when Jimmy dies 100%. Just a matter of time

I'm actually more worried they don't even breakup but that something really bad happens to her.
With how this show is headed a breakup doesn't seem tragic enough.