Official Better Call Saul Season 5 Thread

[TheDarceKnight]

Lalo is so unnerving to watch!

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Beta male Krazy 8 folded like a sucker while alpha male Walt played his hand.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

And another thing we may honestly take into account that even thought the podcast is CONFIRMED to be in 2010... Gilliagan, Gould or even Rich Eisen confirmed that the specific date of the podcast was meant for that specific day of scene with Gene.

I say that, because of the fact that even though the Breaking Bad SHOW began in 2008, we know that the actual timeline of Breaking Bad begins in 2009 on Walter White's 50th birthday. I say that to say this.... their own TIMELINE should be taken for a grain of salt. If Walter White is born September 7th, 1959 then his 50th birthday would be September 7th, 2009. Which means the EVENTS from his 50th birthday to his 52nd birthday is from 2009-2011!!

Again, only pointing this out because it occurred to me even MORE that this was before WALT's death and we been using the timeline all wrong to begin with.

I think they just overlooked it. Like the Osama Bin laden reference. Not much slips by them, but some things do. Osama was killed in 2011 and it was referenced in season 5 and Vince G said they fukked up and their continuity expert missed it.

So, if that's the case you believe... purely due to the date of the Rich Eisen episode... then what did Ed mean when he was refusing to help Jesse initially when he said, “From where I see it, you made your own luck. As did your former partner. As did your lawyer?"

That doesn't add up at all, because we know Walt decided his own fate after leaving NH, and in this season opener of BCS, Jimmy/Saul/Gene decided to make his own luck as well. So, what did Ed meant by that if it wasn't about Saul denying to get bailed out by Ed the 2nd time because of getting made?

FWIW @hex is not only 99% correct on anything and everything BrBa/BCS but he's one of the most knowledgeable cats on this entire fictional universe that has not worked on BrBa or BCS. He's a true gem of the fandom of this universe that Vince G has created. I don't think he's wrong here.

I couldn't give 2 fukks about the saul Goodman storyline.

 

[gluvnast]

I think they just overlooked it. Like the Osama Bin laden reference. Not much slips by them, but some things do. Osama was killed in 2011 and it was referenced in season 5 and Vince G said they fukked up and their continuity expert missed it.



FWIW @hex is not only 99% correct on anything and everything BrBa/BCS but he's one of the most knowledgeable cats on this entire fictional universe that has not worked on BrBa or BCS. He's a true gem of the fandom of this universe that Vince G has created. I don't think he's wrong here.

Like I said, Breaking Bad had a lot of inaccuracies... but you cannot say something as specific as a TYPED UP DATE of someone's birth was something by mere accident. Especially when they never said that it was. Gilligan always been open on what missteps they made. He admitted about the the Osama reference. There's an article about roughly 50 continuity errors and inaccuracies of Breaking Bad. So the show runners aren't perfect and admitted that they aren't perfect. But to dismiss the date of Walter White's birth which the entire series is based around the 50th to 52nd date. They CLEARLY knew what they were doing by putting Sep 7, 1959. And for Breaking Bad, there's no reason for it to be correct it because Walter White is a fictional character. So they can have the timeline be from 2009 to 2011 if they wanted to.

And again, by doing that, everything from the flash forwards of BCS and El Camino would fit if what Vince Gilligan teased about Walt still being alive during the Gene flash forwards. The Ed comments to Jesse would make sense to the implied fates of both Walt and Gene/Saul/Jimmy.

Also, no disrespect to Hex, but him being the most knowledgeable doesn't automatically mean his word means it bond. I rather believe what Gilligan give us and go from that. And Gilligan only said the podcast was just to tell us just what YEAR it was not the specific date. Gilligan also was the one who mentioned the plausibility of Walt still alive during the Gene scenes. He made that awfully CLEAR that the Gene scenes does not have a set date of when yet. He also acknowledges the ONLY thing that he has an time inconsistency about between BB and BCS is the matter of Saul's ex-wives. So the issue about Walt's birth date was never addressed by him. Gilligan never said it was a mistake. And never said Walter White was already dead during those Gene scenes.

Anyone can make excuses for whatever. But I believe based on what was given that Walt was in NH during the time of the Gene flash forwards. Because the year of Walt's birthday is Sep. 7, 1959 making the several months after the 51st birthday be that winter of 2010 when he made it to NH. And being that Walt and Saul disappeared together, Saul (now Gene) was in Omaha during that same 2010 winter which we know from the snow and the podcast they used to tell of the year. And if 1959 was Walt's year of birth, then he died in 2011 and not 2010 as people presumed but it was never confirmed by the showrunners to begin with.

 

[hex]

Vince Gilligan only acknowledged ONE continuity error from Breaking Bad that he has to figure out fitting for Better Call Saul and that was Saul's marriages. Trying to ensure the years match up wasn't ever one of the continuity errors that he acknowledged. That said, Breaking Bad had a gain of mistakes and inaccuracies throughout the series. Back to the series finale, one should asked that if it was still WINTERTIME in New Hampshire (as you can tell from the SNOW) how is it that Walt returned to Albuquerque on his birthday which was still technically SUMMER? There's a time gap within that alone.

There is parts of New Hampshire that always have snow. The White Mountains in particular get snow as early as April.

The point is that you feel so SURE that Vince Gilligan and his writing team are that accurate in Better Call Saul to the point of having a podcast to justify a specific DATE when they been imperfect throughout the entire SERIES of Breaking Bad. If Gilligan said that was the SPECIFIC DATE of the podcast then we can roll with that, but he did not. He only said that was Rich Eisen's podcast was used just to justify the YEAR only. Also, where did anyone from the show acknowledging the Walter White's birth date is INACCURATE? The series began in 2008, but they never said the story began in 2008. For what we definitely know is that Breaking Bad spanned for two years from Walt's 50th to 52nd birthday and we got a definitive date of his birth being Sept. 7, 1959. There's nothing that Gilligan, or Peter Gould, the showrunners saying that was a mistake.

The story 100% begins in 2008. The handicap parking permit we see in Walt's car in the pilot ep expires in 2008.

I guess you could say "well, maybe the permit was a few months expired, and the bulk of the series takes place between 2009-2011".

The problem with that is....

So again, there is a chance that Walter White was still ALIVE during those flash forwards of Gene. Vince Gilligan put it out there as a possibility. There's no acknowledgement by them that Walter White's birthdate was an accidental mistake (which I do not think they would made that type of error, in comparison to the other continuity errors... typing the definitive date wasn't some "oops"...if that was the case then your ENTIRE dispute about the podcast being an accidental date is out the window as well. So it can be justifiably said that, if Breaking Bad's story REALLY ends in 2011, and not 2010, then timeline of Gene and Walt in exile would make more sense. The fact both take place during the winter of 2010-2011 would make sense and therefore that podcast being in existence make a lot of sense, as well as what Ed said in El Camino to Jesse in the aftermath makes total sense as both Gene and Walt took their eventual fates into their own hands which Ed was telling Jesse to do.

"BB" can't end in 2011. It's literally impossible, given the time line we know of.

The Rich Eisen podcast is confirmed to be in 2010....and you're saying "BB" ends in September, 2011....that means Saul would've been in Omaha at the same time he was in ABQ hooking them up with the Vamonos Pest people from season 5A.

Because 2010 would've been around the time of Walt's 51st birthday if he was born in 1959....correct?

So at this point you have to ask yourself which is more likely....the divorce papers being a production error, one of many in the run of "BB"....or the entire time line of both "BB" and "BCS" being completely nonsensical.

Fred.

 

[GoldenGlove]

The next episode (as in 3rd EP) is tomorrow right?

This show comes on Tuesdays? The premiere roll out has me all messed up

 

[hex]

The next episode (as in 3rd EP) is tomorrow right?

This show comes on Tuesdays? The premiere roll out has me all messed up

Tonight.

Fred.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

fukk this is amazing. Tye cinematography on here makes everything else I’ve been watching seem so dull and routine. There are some shots in these first two episodes that aren’t even meant to be all that impactful that are already seared into my brain. The shot of Saul in the phone booth and then putting the coins into the payphone in the first few minutes of this season premier for example.

Maybe not the time or the place but in many ways I prefer this show to BrBa. The slow burn of knowing how it’s going to play out but not knowing how is tremendously tragic. I love how the writers are just having so much fun with that.

Also I think Saul, Mike, and Gus have had so much time getting to know their characters at this point that they’re so fukking dialed in. Like I said earlier, The unique cinematography has also been truly mastered by now.

 

[mannyrs13]

Wasn't expecting a full blown discussion on the birthday of a fictional television character.

Maybe there's something more to this that I'm not seeing.

 

[FaTaL]

Wasn't expecting a full blown discussion on the birthday of a fictional television character.

Maybe there's something more to this that I'm not seeing.

It sets the whole timeline

when he’s diagnosed and his death

 

[beenz]

Tonight.

Fred.

Wait, I thought we were only on episode 2!

 

[hex]

Wait, I thought we were only on episode 2!

Nah, ep 2 dropped the day after ep 1. They doubled up. Ep 2 been out since last week breh.

Fred.

 

[FaTaL]

Wait, I thought we were only on episode 2!

Ep 3 tonight, better catch up!

 

[mannyrs13]

Replay at ten?

 

[OJ Simpsom]

Ep 3 leaked early