Official Better Call Saul Season 5 Thread

[GoldenGlove]

I just rewatched El Camino he says after Jesse came up short on cash he says “From where I see it, you made your own luck. As did your former partner. As did your lawyer.” meaning when Jesse didn't take that ride after that everything was on him.. when Walt left his hideout everything that happened after that was on him... And now after that cold opening we see Jimmy refusing ED's help also. The writers don't put lines like that in their show as throwaways. Saul is done for sadly. also we have no gauge how long he been hiding.

I think you're reading too much into that line.

He's more or less saying, "it is what it is"


They all were in fukked up situations, so essentially that's their own "luck" and the bed they've made. Since El Camino happens immediately after Breaking Bad, Saul's "end" hasn't happened when we see that Jesse interaction with dude in his shop.

The writers have always said, that Better Call Saul will show us events in the Breaking Bad Universe that happened before, during and after the show. I think all the black and white scenes that are shown on Better Call Saul are clearly after the events that happened in BB and El Camino.

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

I think you're reading too much into that line.

He's more or less saying, "it is what it is"


They all were in fukked up situations, so essentially that's their own "luck" and the bed they've made. Since El Camino happens immediately after Breaking Bad, Saul's "end" hasn't happened when we see that Jesse interaction with dude in his shop.

The writers have always said, that Better Call Saul will show us events in the Breaking Bad Universe that happened before, during and after the show. I think all the black and white scenes that are shown on Better Call Saul are clearly after the events that happened in BB and El Camino.

when has a line ever been a throwaway in breaking bad? especially a line that connects to something we know? they foreshadowed jane death for a season with what felt like a throw away line between her and jesse and etc and walter and his baby. they foreshadowed how breaking bad would end in season 2 with a throw away line. they foreshadowed gus face being blown off in season 2 with the pink teddy bear..not to mention how every episode title with the bear in it was connected to the plane crash.. i can keep going. no way that line meant nothing

 

[GoldenGlove]

when has a line ever been a throwaway in breaking bad? especially a line that connects to something we know? they foreshadowed jane death for a season with what felt like a throw away line between her and jesse and etc and walter and his baby. they foreshadowed how breaking bad would end in season 2 with a throw away line. they foreshadowed gus face being blown off in season 2 with the pink teddy bear..not to mention how every episode title with the bear in it was connected to the plane crash.. i can keep going. no way that line meant nothing

I know the writers present everything with intention on the show. I'm just saying that I don't think that line is foreshadowing anything.

I took it as him just reiterating that he (Jesse) and his associates (Walt and Saul) all were so hot that his services were needed to begin with.

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

I know the writers present everything with intention on the show. I'm just saying that I don't think that line is foreshadowing anything.

I took it as him just reiterating that he (Jesse) and his associates (Walt and Saul) all were so hot that his services were needed to begin with.

i see that side of it. But this shows loves to drop tiny clues like this.. feels a tad huge to me

 

[CHICAGO]

i see that side of it. But this shows loves to drop tiny clues like this.. feels a tad huge to me

HE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT THE WRITERS
SAID BCS WILL SHOW EVENTS AFTER EL CAMINO....

SO THERES NO WAY SAUL GOT KILLED
BEFORE EL CAMINO.

YOURE JUST BEING DIFFERENT
FOR THE fukk OF IT.



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[gluvnast]

YOU DIDNT SEE THAT BAG OF DIAMONDS HE HAD?

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EL CAMINO TAKES PLACE IMMEDIATELY AFTER BB...

I STRONGLY DOUBT THESE GENE SCENES
TAKE PLACE BEFORE EL CAMINO
UNLESS SAUL WAS ONLY HIDING FOR
A FEW MONTHS BEFORE GETTING MADE.
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BCS STARTED IN MAY OF 2002...

JIMMY GETS DISBARRED IN FEB OF 2003.

BCS SEASON 5 STARTS IN MARCH OF 2004.

BB STARTS IN SEP OF 2008.



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The time line doesn't add up, mainly because when Saul is introduced in Breaking Bad, it was still 2008 and he was still dealing with Nacho and Lalo which begins THIS season. There's no way it could only be 2004 and him having four years with the Nacho/Lalo Salamanca. It is more logical that the year had to be around 2006-2007.It's still a year out with season 6 being the finale, and everything else is leading towards Breaking Bad. The series isn't leaving gaps in between.

Also, in reference to El Camino.... you have to remember that a whole full YEAR had passed when we get to the series finale of Breaking Bad. Walt was in exile for a year before return and both Walt and Saul left into exile together. So, the flash forwards of Gene can EASILY be during the time that Walt was in exile too BEFORE the series finale. It is easy to suggest the Gene events happened BEFORE El Camino.

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

HE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT THE WRITERS
SAID BCS WILL SHOW EVENTS AFTER EL CAMINO....

SO THERES NO WAY SAUL GOT KILLED
BEFORE EL CAMINO.

YOURE JUST BEING DIFFERENT
FOR THE fukk OF IT.



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first you been acting like i called you a name or something since you first quoted me. we just talking...on a forum. relax. its just a theory i got calm down. but even still i backed up what im talking about with other instances from the show and the writers style of writing....all you saying is nah uh breh. where did they say bcs will end after el camino? i would like to see that... and even if it does where did i say it wont? i never said saul is dead... i said ed lines is telling us saul story will end badly because he refused help after being made. he could be on the run, he could be dead or in jail but it will happen before el camino bet on that

 

[CHICAGO]

The time line doesn't add up, mainly because when Saul is introduced in Breaking Bad, it was still 2008 and he was still dealing with Nacho and Lalo which begins THIS season. There's no way it could only be 2004 and him having four years with the Nacho/Lalo Salamanca. It is more logical that the year had to be around 2006-2007.It's still a year out with season 6 being the finale, and everything else is leading towards Breaking Bad. The series isn't leaving gaps in between.

Also, in reference to El Camino.... you have to remember that a whole full YEAR had passed when we get to the series finale of Breaking Bad. Walt was in exile for a year before return and both Walt and Saul left into exile together. So, the flash forwards of Gene can EASILY be during the time that Walt was in exile too BEFORE the series finale. It is easy to suggest the Gene events happened BEFORE El Camino.

WALTER WAS NOT GONE FOR A YR.
HE WAS GONE FOR 6 MONTHS.

YOURE LITERALLY MAKING UP TIME LINES.

WE'RE IN 2004.



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[gluvnast]

NACHO WOULD KILL KRAZY 8
WITHOUT GIVING IT A 2ND THOUGHT
IF LALO GAVE HIM THE WORD
SO I STILL DONT SEE YOUR POINT.

DUDE IS ALL ABOUT HIMSELF AND HIS POPS.

HE DOESNT HAVE LOYALTY
TO ANY OF THESE CATS.



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Nor should he. Nacho been trying to get out of the game since season ONE. But every time he tries, he digs himself deeper in the hole. It has nothing to do with loyalty nor does it have anything to do with selfishness. It has everything to do with survival. Nacho has nothing going for himself but care for his POPS. And that's all. Why should he be loyal to the Salamancas when they ain't shyt? Why be loyal to Gus who's been really making his life a living Hell, for no true reason aside from a petty animosity of Nacho nearly killing Hector Salamanca? Nacho doesn't need to be loyal to NOBODY. But he is stuck in a thick situation and he's doing whatever he can to just survive through it and taking a lot of chances in doing such.

 

[CHICAGO]

Nor should he. Nacho been trying to get out of the game since season ONE. But every time he tries, he digs himself deeper in the hole. It has nothing to do with loyalty nor does it have anything to do with selfishness. It has everything to do with survival. Nacho has nothing going for himself but care for his POPS. And that's all. Why should he be loyal to the Salamancas when they ain't shyt? Why be loyal to Gus who's been really making his life a living Hell, for no true reason aside from a petty animosity of Nacho nearly killing Hector Salamanca? Nacho doesn't need to be loyal to NOBODY. But he is stuck in a thick situation and he's doing whatever he can to just survive through it and taking a lot of chances in doing such.

THIS POST SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE POSTER I QUOTED.





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[FaTaL]

Nor should he. Nacho been trying to get out of the game since season ONE. But every time he tries, he digs himself deeper in the hole. It has nothing to do with loyalty nor does it have anything to do with selfishness. It has everything to do with survival. Nacho has nothing going for himself but care for his POPS. And that's all. Why should he be loyal to the Salamancas when they ain't shyt? Why be loyal to Gus who's been really making his life a living Hell, for no true reason aside from a petty animosity of Nacho nearly killing Hector Salamanca? Nacho doesn't need to be loyal to NOBODY. But he is stuck in a thick situation and he's doing whatever he can to just survive through it and taking a lot of chances in doing such.

I think nacho is about to bail, things are getting too hot with lalo around. He’s already prepared to leave, he just has to convince his dad

 

[hex]

The Gene scenes are roughly a couple months after the events of "BB", and by extension, "El Camino".

How do we know this? Because in the opening of season 2 the janitor was listening to a Rich Eisen podcast from October 21st, 2010.

The writers said they put that in intentionally.

To further clarify what I'm saying, Walt's birthday is September 7th. The cold open from season 5A with the machine gun is on his birthday. So he would've been dead early September.

Fred.

 

[gluvnast]

WALTER WAS NOT GONE FOR A YR.
HE WAS GONE FOR 6 MONTHS.

YOURE LITERALLY MAKING UP TIME LINES.

WE'RE IN 2004.



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Not even making up timelines. It wasn't 6 months either. Walt 51st bday was only like a month or two before the whole Ozymandias so at least it was 10 months because he returned on his 52nd bday. Either way, that's a moot point. The actual POINT is that both Walt and Saul left into exile TOGETHER and Saul was living a totally different life BEFORE the events of El Camino.... everything that happened in the flash forwards of BCS could realistically happened before the the series finale of Breaking Bad.

 

[CHICAGO]

Not even making up timelines. It wasn't 6 months either. Walt 51st bday was only like a month or two before the whole Ozymandias so at least it was 10 months because he returned on his 52nd bday. Either way, that's a moot point. The actual POINT is that both Walt and Saul left into exile TOGETHER and Saul was living a totally different life BEFORE the events of El Camino.... everything that happened in the flash forwards of BCS could realistically happened before the the series finale of Breaking Bad.

The Gene scenes are roughly a couple months after the events of "BB", and by extension, "El Camino".

How do we know this? Because in the opening of season 2 the janitor was listening to a Rich Eisen podcast from October 21st, 2010.

The writers said they put that in intentionally.

To further clarify what I'm saying, Walt's birthday is September 7th. The cold open from season 5A with the machine gun is on his birthday. So he would've been dead early September.

Fred.

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[GoldenGlove]

THIS POST SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE POSTER I QUOTED.





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