Bernie stays on course and nobody really come after him. Safe outing for him.
His highlight was dealing with Central America, imo.
His highlight was dealing with Central America, imo.
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Jesus H. Christ
I died for your sins
mccaskill should be banished from public life
These centrist Dems should fukk off.
NZA
LOL
bernie may need to step it up. i dont think he has enough strong moments to move the needle, meanwhile, warren and kamala are probably going to get a big bump
Apollo Kid
Veteran
Everyone's praising Kamala's "food fight" line but it made me cringe it was so obviously rehearsed and sound-bitey. But this is America.
NZA
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he needs to do a better job explaining how his competitors are complicit in our problems.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Completely agree, he could be rhetorically sonning the field but he is too nice for that. Only thing that might cause him to lose.
ill_will82
What you see, is what you get
I think when it's all said & done the Democratic race is going to come down to either Biden, Bernie, or Harris. The rest of that field isn't saying anything different to standout.
Honestly, Bernie is a very good candidate and if this was four years ago I could see him beating Trump. I don't see it for 2020 though w/Joe running. This is really Biden's race to lose.
Honestly, Bernie is a very good candidate and if this was four years ago I could see him beating Trump. I don't see it for 2020 though w/Joe running. This is really Biden's race to lose.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Not on no hate shyt, but why was Bernie's explanation for half his policies revolution/marching is the streets? That shyt isn't going to cut it with however many debates, over a year of campaigning left, and 23 candidates. This dude is supposed to be so visionary but can explain, at a high level, how he'll implement these things, that's a terrible look especially when he's see as a "socialist", it really is his responsibility to be more buttoned up to shut people/naysayers/moderators/other candidates down.
Like is he really going to be sworn in, do a national address and just yell to everyone "riooooot". This geezer our here running on a platform of implementing a real life purge
Like is he really going to be sworn in, do a national address and just yell to everyone "riooooot". This geezer our here running on a platform of implementing a real life purge
Because it's the only viable way forward.Not on no hate shyt, but why was Bernie's explanation for half his policies revolution/marching is the streets? That shyt isn't going to cut it with however many debates, over a year of campaigning left, and 23 candidates. This dude is supposed to be so visionary but can explain, at a high level, how he'll implement these things, that's a terrible look especially when he's see as a "socialist", it really is his responsibility to be more buttoned up to shut people/naysayers/moderators/other candidates down.
Like is he really going to be sworn in, do a national address and just yell to everyone "riooooot". This geezer our here running on a platform of implementing a real life purge
You need a plan not simply rooted in electoral math to actually accomplish anything, there's overwhelming gridlock in the US government that you can't overcome through elections. Obama had the mandate as well and then immediately dismantled his popular apparatus and went about not being about to accomplish anything.
His explanation is a valid one, people just don't assume it to be so because they've convinced themselves that better things are impossible. It's why his speech is always the same, because he understands that there's no electoral "math" or solution in which there is meaningful, systemic change that is necessary to change this country for the better.
You're fundamentally misunderstanding what he's positing and that his style of speaking is, he's not a natural debater, he knows that, so he's sticking with his point and overall strategy to keep America mobilized and have people recognize and be able to point out the actual malefactors in US Government, which are on both sides, which prevent it from functioning and prevent the people from getting what they want. It's his only play, it's the only play that will work, it's the only play we have that offers literally anything meaningful beyond another few years of gridlock while we dance closer and closer to the edge of the flames. He's not telling people to riot, he's telling people "this is your government, these people are beholden to you, let your voice be heard and do not let them silence you again". It's why his floor is 15% and he will never fall below that.
It was awful, every time she wasn't in direct conflict with Biden over his racism she was basically a wet napkin with no charisma, her closing statement was just objectively awful. Sanders was fine, he was smart to sit back and let Harris attack Biden while he stayed on message to his points that he's been on for 40 years.
afterlife2009
Superstar
Historically, organizing large numbers of people has changed things. Civil rights, women's movements, labor movements. Idk pick other random country who had people organize for change in history. Bernie has a massive volunteer base.Not on no hate shyt, but why was Bernie's explanation for half his policies revolution/marching is the streets? That shyt isn't going to cut it with however many debates, over a year of campaigning left, and 23 candidates. This dude is supposed to be so visionary but can explain, at a high level, how he'll implement these things, that's a terrible look especially when he's see as a "socialist", it really is his responsibility to be more buttoned up to shut people/naysayers/moderators/other candidates down.
Like is he really going to be sworn in, do a national address and just yell to everyone "riooooot". This geezer our here running on a platform of implementing a real life purge
Poor and working people aren't going to be saved by just trying to wonk your way against people with unlimited amounts of influence in the insurance and military industry
I'm not really sure where I land on the political scale but somewhere in the dem socialist range(MLK in the last year of his life, Fred Hampton). His style of campaigning is taken from past movements that I support so I appreciate it.
If Bernie is president I would guess he would rally his base to support specific union strikes all over the country. He's been sending out emails to supporters since he launched about supporting union strikes at hospitals and universities.
Bernie Sanders is using his massive email list to warn immigrants about ICE raids
I also mention it here
im pretty sure warren said this as well in the debate yesterday about organizing. And candidates that are supported by insurance companies and MSNBC which is owned by comcast are going to engage in bad faith even when it's explained to them so it's lost a cause tbh.
I don't trust any of them to follow through on it. Tacking left rhetorically is all well and good but they fundamentally misunderstand the diagnosis of the problems and not only will they not be able to accomplish it even if they elect too, I don't think they'll pursue it even if they make it that far.
I don't trust it because it's a played out, cynical grab for left votes and attention without being able to recognize that the problems are beyond their ability to see.
I don't trust any of these politicians, even Bernie, but I at least believe that 40 years of conviction and belief more than 10 minutes of tacking left to score cheap political victories that they'll inveterately compromise into nothing.Don't take this to mean I don't like that even just rhetorically they have to talk about this, the party being forced left is good, it's a good thing. But I do not trust these people to follow through in the same way I would Sanders, and even Sanders I don't trust that much. You're a fool if you trust any politician to do things without being pressured into it. Which is why at least his message of keeping people mobilized and on point works and is resonant.