Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!

[chico25]

i just told you

and if you think theyre that weak then what made you think your hero bernie could accomplish a single fukkin thing

"Push for reforms" is a vague statement that doesn't really say what they would be doing.

Bernie could have done a some things via executive order, which his team was putting together a list of during the campaign. Passing legislation wouldn't have be dependent on Democrats fighting for his agenda but him and the people fighting against both sides with pressure to get things through for the people. Not everything would have gotten through but we would be in a better place.

 

[the cac mamba]

"Push for reforms" is a vague statement that doesn't really say what they would be doing.

Bernie could have done a some things via executive order, which his team was putting together a list of during the campaign. Passing legislation wouldn't have be dependent on Democrats fighting for his agenda but him and the people fighting against both sides with pressure to get things through for the people. Not everything would have gotten through but we would be in a better place.

i actually hope mcconnell tries to keep the judge off, its the perfect catalyst for the dems to propose reforming the supreme court and even the senate

you sound weak and pathetic

 

[chico25]

i actually hope mcconnell tries to keep the judge off, its the perfect catalyst for the dems to propose reforming the supreme court and even the senate

you sound weak and pathetic

You're the one expecting Democrats to suddenly fight back when they've been letting McConnell and Trump get away with breaking laws and "norms" every day. There is no evidence that things would be different this time.

I don't mind fighting for what I believe in, voting for Joe Biden isn't that. Voting out of fear of what might happen with the supreme court isn't that. Good luck in November.

 

[Kenny West]

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it’s not right wing talking points. A lot of Ppl who are democrats believe in capitalism, And a choice for healthcare.

that’s why y’all lose. You’re too much of a “purist” on everything not realizing most of your thoughts are driven by someone else who gave you those thoughts anyway, blatant hypocrisy.


Everything I read in here is a regurgitation of someone else’s (white liberals) talking points.

I actually resonate with a lot that sunzoo, fah, somewhat tru Mac and other Bernie posters have. But when you have 7/10 issues we can agree on. Y’all go in on anyone who doesn’t also doesn’t believe in the other 3

shyts crazy . U have to believe in everything Bernie believes in to be a true progressive to y’all folks.

I don’t believe in everything biden says especially on free trade with China, that shyt kills middle class jobs. But I can say that and other Biden supporters won’t tell me to fukk off bc I don’t believe in every word he says.

I get being a hard liner, but that’s not how u win. And actually get change through.

you have so much hate in ur heart bc of the fukked up system, that you hate on ppl who agree with u on most ur ideas when they don’t believe in 100%.

I can’t name one president who won with that thinking

Lol @ being a black lifelong supporter of establishment Democrats and trying to give a "thats why you guys lose " speech off the heels of losing to trump. You've witnessed a lifetime of Democrats resisting progressive movements even back as far as Jesse Jackson and his unanimous black support, just to lose to Bush with a corporatist cac. Dont tell me the party that let trump win has all the answers.

You spend the last few pages reciting every narrative from MSNBC and Napoleon tweetstorms but talk about reciting talking points .Dont tell me these people agree with me when they lobby against my ideals. When they vote against my ideals. When the propagandize against my ideals.

fukk out of here with that purist drivel. It would be one thing if it was actually a 7/ 10 type deal but that ghoulish marionette is pro fracking, anti m4all, not for taking urgent climate action, not for taking money out politics....not for anything outside of Donald Trump is a big meanie.

If Biden wants my vote he can earn it himself good sir. Your condescending projections of progressives is not helping. Dont tell me you on my side while contining to push a cult narrative just cause we havent forgotten that there were candidates willing to deliver on issues the Democratic base actually wants. That biden and the party they fought against them and comprised on pretty much nothing.

 

[Warren Moon]

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Lol @ being a black lifelong supporter of establishment Democrats and trying to give a "thats why you guys lose " speech off the heels of losing to trump. You've witnessed a lifetime of Democrats resisting progressive movements even back as far as Jesse Jackson and his unanimous black support, just to lose to Bush with a corporatist cac. Dont tell me the party that let trump win has all the answers.

You spend the last few pages reciting every narrative from MSNBC and Napoleon tweetstorms but talk about reciting talking points .Dont tell me these people agree with me when they lobby against my ideals. When they vote against my ideals. When the propagandize against my ideals.

fukk out of here with that purist drivel. It would be one thing if it was actually a 7/ 10 type deal but that ghoulish marionette is pro fracking, anti m4all, not for taking urgent climate action, not for taking money out politics....not for anything outside of Donald Trump is a big meanie.

If Biden wants my vote he can earn it himself good sir. Your condescending projections of progressives is not helping. Dont tell me you on my side while contining to push a cult narrative just cause we havent forgotten that there were candidates willing to deliver on issues the Democratic base actually wants. That biden and the party they fought against them and comprised on pretty much nothing.

lol I don’t watch MSNBC.

Biden has a universal healthcare plan.
Biden is anti fracking. You literally just made that up that he supports fracking.
You also made he doesn’t want take money out of politics. He started campaign financing reform in 1974.
He wants to amend the citizens united decision.

literally all of your posts for being anti-biden are lies you made about his positions. He’s the opposite on all those things.

straight up lies, your purposely spreading disinformation.

show me where Biden supports fracking or doesn’t want reform campaign finance reform?

You’re lying.

 

[wtfyomom]

i just told you

and if you think theyre that weak then what made you think your hero bernie could accomplish a single fukkin thing

well i cant speak for everyone but the way bernie dropped out and then the way he and aoc and other so called progressives at the end of the day all bowed down to that corporate bail out i dont. although it was always going to be a long shot for anyone to get anything passed

 

[wtfyomom]

Warren Moon is disingenuous, hes like the Hilary types last time " just look at the website, hes for ALL the progressive ideas" lmfao hasnt mentioned them once in campaigning and has no history or evidence hed fight for any of them and takes money from lobbyists against those things.
"just look at the website!" muther fukkers think people are stupid

 

[wtfyomom]

 

[FAH1223]

What she's saying just isn't backed up by data. Majority? Hell fukking no.

10-15%? Sure, that's normal.

 

[SunZoo]

What she's saying just isn't backed up by data. Majority? Hell fukking no.

10-15%? Sure, that's normal.

A larger amount of Sanders supports are going to stay home or vote directly for Trump than they did in 2016.

 

[FAH1223]

A larger amount of Sanders supports are going to stay home or vote directly for Trump than they did in 2016.

I don't see it. I'm not believing online twitter world BS.

The data says 7% right now are saying they'd directly vote for Trump. 80% say they are voting Biden. 13% are undecided. Thats POLITICO/Morning Consult surveying over 2,000 Sanders voters nationwide with a margin of error of 2%.

Trump has 80-85% DISAPPROVAL from Sanders voters.

ABC News polling showed 85% are voting Biden, 15% are going Trump or a third party candidate.

This BS of people online on YouTube and Twitter saying 50% or a majority or whatever else fukkery is BS.

 

[Kenny West]

lol I don’t watch MSNBC.

Biden has a universal healthcare plan.
Biden is anti fracking. You literally just made that up that he supports fracking.
You also made he doesn’t want take money out of politics. He started campaign financing reform in 1974.
He wants to amend the citizens united decision.

literally all of your posts for being anti-biden are lies you made about his positions. He’s the opposite on all those things.

straight up lies, your purposely spreading disinformation.

show me where Biden supports fracking or doesn’t want reform campaign finance reform?

You’re lying.

Bruh is literally doing what was described a page or two ago You cant even call Biden's positions on this shyt half measures, shyt is quarter measures and laughable excuses for the real thing.

"Biden being anti fracking"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/19/fact-checking-biden-fracking-fracas/
"No new Oil fields" = keeping all the existing ones including the ones expanded by Trump deregulation



Reduce emissions by 2050. This is NOT urgent climate action

"Universal healthcare"
How Biden’s and Sanders’ Healthcare Plans Measure Up

Biden's public option (with 0 details) is immediately means tested to "low income families". We dont need to even need to argue about the details at that point.

This is NOT universal medicare

" Wanting money out of politics"

Biden fundraises from lobbyists despite pledge

Joe Biden Launches Presidential Bid With Fundraiser Filled With Corporate Lobbyists and GOP Donors

Biden Campaign Drops Opposition to Super PAC Support

I think these events underlie how changing the citizen's united decision is not the same as wanting to get money out of politics. Biden's "reforms" would disable another trump getting money from foreign agents but isnt at all addressing corporate lobbying and superpacs.

This is NOT getting money out of politics

You sir are a liar, and after coming in here spitting a bunch of easily debunked half truths you call me out my name & double down on a bunch of quarter truths. Please shove whatever device you are reading this on far enough up biden's ass that it clears the foggy rambling haze that is his mind. From your position on his nuts you can surely reach it.

It would be a much better use of your time than trying to convince me

 

[the cac mamba]

A larger amount of Sanders supports are going to stay home or vote directly for Trump than they did in 2016.

bullshyt

 

[A Cop]

I don't see it. I'm not believing online twitter world BS.

The data says 7% right now are saying they'd directly vote for Trump. 80% say they are voting Biden. 13% are undecided. Thats POLITICO/Morning Consult surveying over 2,000 Sanders voters nationwide with a margin of error of 2%.

Trump has 80-85% DISAPPROVAL from Sanders voters.

ABC News polling showed 85% are voting Biden, 15% are going Trump or a third party candidate.

This BS of people online on YouTube and Twitter saying 50% or a majority or whatever else fukkery is BS.

Two things.

One, like I often say about polls, I've never been polled. I've been around for a while. I'm politically active. Nobody has ever polled me.

Two, Biden might not be the nominee.

 

[FAH1223]

Two things.

One, like I often say about polls, I've never been polled. I've been around for a while. I'm politically active. Nobody has ever polled me.

Two, Biden might not be the nominee.

What state do you live in?

All these people saying they are voting 3rd party or not at all are mostly living in places like CA, NY, etc.