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Also “ bernie didn’t speak to black issues” meantime he was in literally every stump speech talking about the prison industrial complex , apparently that doesn’t count or giving money to hsbcu or saying minorities would make money off the legal sale of weed and not just some corps. But none of that counts but apparently Biden spoke to black issues haha.

I know democrat partisans wanted to make all these arguments on why bernie lost but they all ring false since you fakkits chose Biden . There’s not one criticism of bernie that doesn’t apply even more to Biden

Bernie was asked black specific questions in multiple debates and refused to answer repeatedly.

He skipped campaigning in a black majority state like Mississippi to stay in Michigan and got washed.
 

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Bernie was asked black specific questions in multiple debates and refused to answer repeatedly.

He skipped campaigning in a black majority state like Mississippi to stay in Michigan and got washed.

Well, I don't think MS visit would have made a difference, he'd still have lost at that point.

Its interesting. Bernie did a southern tour last Spring/Summer. He went to Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Georgia and he obviously had his South Carolina operation when he announced.

I think its clear he needed to invest heavily in the south instead of relying on volunteers. And he had to be on the air waves and black media.

This is where having experienced black political operatives helps. He needed a black version of Chuck Rocha or multiple people who can fill that void, preferably from the communities you're targeting.

In South Carolina, he relied on national black figures instead of empowering his local team to take the lead and make executive decisions.

When you're running against Obama's VP, there's no room for error esp when you need to get 40% of the black vote to win the nomination.
 

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Bernie was asked black specific questions in multiple debates and refused to answer repeatedly.
This is a lie.

He skipped campaigning in a black majority state like Mississippi to stay in Michigan and got washed.
This is also a lie.

For future reference, anyone reading this shyt should remember that "Warren Moon" is just a fukking liar.
 

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Well, I don't think MS visit would have made a difference, he'd still have lost at that point.

Its interesting. Bernie did a southern tour last Spring/Summer. He went to Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Georgia and he obviously had his South Carolina operation when he announced.

I think its clear he needed to invest heavily in the south instead of relying on volunteers. And he had to be on the air waves and black media.

This is where having experienced black political operatives helps. He needed a black version of Chuck Rocha or multiple people who can fill that void, preferably from the communities you're targeting.

In South Carolina, he relied on national black figures instead of empowering his local team to take the lead and make executive decisions.

When you're running against Obama's VP, there's no room for error esp when you need to get 40% of the black vote to win the nomination.

True. He had a shot to do it to.

optics are everything tho, if u choose to not even try to talk to black ppl in a state where they’re the majority it shows throughout the entire southern black region.

it was one of his biggest mistakes. We all took notice.
 

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serious question, outside of roe v wade, which they already have enough judges to overturn and some people think the repubs wont actually federally overturn it because then they can no longer use it to garner votes. but outside of that, what else is the SC going to do differently whether its trump or biden? is the democrat judge going to overturn citizens united? they gonna stop gerrymandering and all that ? like seriously what else is a democratic judge good for except making roe vs wade a closer loss if its overturned?

its always funny to me that especially black people act like racism just started with trump or that it wasnt already EXTREMELY racist in this country the day before trump got elected. or that we arent already at the point of fascist vs ultra fascist. dudes acting like some bougie white people acting like joe fukkin biden is gonna be in charge and it will all be good. did dudes forget BLM came to prominence with a black man as president and he was a democrat? at this point im honestly hard pressed to really say there is any harm reduction or if it matters. if the planet is going to burn, what good is it if bidens paris agreement makes it burn but with slightly less carbon emissions ? you get my point, mad people will die and be in poverty regardless of whos president. and with bidens dementia, its likely youll have a bunch of bankers and war hawks running his administration. he already said bloomberg and jamie dimon convicted fraudster will be in there
In truth the SC fearmongering was always lost on me.

Climate change is a top 3 issue for me and we really ended the 10+ candidate primary with a fukking pro fracker as the Dem nominee in 2020.

We supposed to forget Merrick Garland and Clarence Thomas but treat Supreme Court noms as an existential threat

Meanwhile: Antarctica alert: NASA data detects dramatic instability under 'doomsday' Denman Glacier
 

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This is a lie.


This is also a lie.

For future reference, anyone reading this shyt should remember that "Warren Moon" is just a fukking liar.

lies huh? :francis:

Bernie skips Selma, bails on Mississippi & Kansas City, schedules 2nd FOX News Town Hall.


Bernie Sanders Cancels Mississippi Rally, Shifting Focus to Michigan

:ufdup:He chose To go on Fox News instead of visiting a black state:mjpls:

idc what your name is bernie, warren, Obama, or Biden. If you choose to not come to a black state in the south Bc u want to be on Fox News. We ain’t riding with you with u at all :ld: fukk outta here


Mississippi has the most oppressed blacks nationwide, every other southern state has a soft spot for black ppl in that state.

He made the decision to not visit the lowest of the low of black ppl in this country. Bc they weren’t worth it.


He sent a loud message nationwide, he was done after that. Top 3 mistake in his campaign when trying to get the black vote.
 
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serious question, outside of roe v wade, which they already have enough judges to overturn and some people think the repubs wont actually federally overturn it because then they can no longer use it to garner votes
if you think about it, "overturning roe v wade" is pretty meaningless :yeshrug: it doesnt really mean shyt

all it means, is that individual states CAN make it illegal, if they choose. and these are the states where there's like 1 abortion clinic anyway :dead:

but overturning roe v wade doesnt make abortion illegal in america. blue states can still offer them freely
 

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They've taken them on economy, healthcare and strangely enough rape/sexual assault all cycle.

Funny how that works.

it’s not right wing talking points. A lot of Ppl who are democrats believe in capitalism, And a choice for healthcare. :dwillhuh:

that’s why y’all lose. You’re too much of a “purist” on everything not realizing most of your thoughts are driven by someone else who gave you those thoughts anyway, blatant hypocrisy.


Everything I read in here is a regurgitation of someone else’s (white liberals) talking points.

I actually resonate with a lot that sunzoo, fah, somewhat tru Mac and other Bernie posters have. But when you have 7/10 issues we can agree on. Y’all go in on anyone who doesn’t also doesn’t believe in the other 3:gucci:

shyts crazy :dwillhuh:. U have to believe in everything Bernie believes in to be a true progressive to y’all folks.

I don’t believe in everything biden says especially on free trade with China, that shyt kills middle class jobs. But I can say that and other Biden supporters won’t tell me to fukk off bc I don’t believe in every word he says.

I get being a hard liner, but that’s not how u win. And actually get change through.

you have so much hate in ur heart bc of the fukked up system, that you hate on ppl who agree with u on most ur ideas when they don’t believe in 100%.

I can’t name one president who won with that thinking
 

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As Bernie Sanders Drops Presidential Bid, Most Supporters Ready to Back Biden - Morning Consult
80 percent of Vermont senator’s supporters say they’d vote for the former vice president in November

BY ELI YOKLEY
April 8, 2020 at 1:02 pm ET
  • 7% said they would defect and back President Donald Trump in November, less than the share who did in 2016.

  • Sanders’ supporters are 51 points more likely to view Biden unfavorably than the average Democrat.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Wednesday ended his campaign for president, becoming the last of more than two-dozen candidates to drop their bids for the Democratic nomination and leaving former Vice President Joe Biden as the party’s last man standing.

Speaking to supporters on a livestream, Sanders said he saw no feasible path to securing the nomination.

“I cannot in good conscience continue to mount a campaign that cannot win, and which would interfere with the important work required of all of us,” he said, highlighting the importance of beating President Donald Trump in November.

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Most Sanders supporters are inclined to back Biden in November, but the former vice president will have some work to do to solidify those figures. The latest Morning Consult poll tracking the Democratic race, conducted March 30-April 5, found 80 percent of Democratic primary voters who said Sanders was their first-choice candidate would vote for Biden in a head-to-head matchup against Trump, while 7 percent said they would defect and back the incumbent Republican. The gap is bigger than among Democratic voters as a whole, but is less than the 12 percent of Sanders supporters estimated to have done so in 2016.

Sanders supporters, a primarily young coalition of voters, are also more likely than the average Democrat to hold unfavorable views about their party’s presumptive nominee. Eighty percent of Democrats view Biden favorably compared with only 54 percent of Sanders supporters. Forty percent of Sanders supporters have an unfavorable view of Biden versus just 15 percent of Democrats.

The poll surveyed 5,675 Democratic voters and 2,323 Sanders supporters, with respective margins of error of 1 and 2 percentage points.

In a Wednesday tweet, Trump said Sanders’ campaign “ended just like the Democrats & the DNC wanted” and urged “the Bernie people should come to the Republican Party.”

While Sanders’ supporters may have more apprehension about Biden than the average Democrat, there is no statistical difference between the two when it comes to their views about Trump. The latest poll found 13 percent of Sanders supporters and 12 percent of Democrats approve of the president’s job performance, while 86 percent and 85 percent, respectively disapprove.

In nationwide polling, Sanders only briefly led the race.

His increase in support came after Biden’s faltering in the early contests in Iowa and New Hampshire, tearing away at voters’ notions about Biden’s “electability” against Trump. After Iowa, Biden lost support among almost every group in the Democratic Party — liberals and conservatives, older voters and black voters, the core of Biden’s support. And after New Hampshire, Sanders briefly gained ground with black voters, whose confidence in the democratic socialist’s ability to win in November plummeted along with the overall Democratic primary electorate.

But that advantage was erased when Biden won the South Carolina primary and racked up victories on Super Tuesday, fueled by endorsements from three of his former rivals in the Democratic contest: former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg of Indiana, Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke of Texas.

Sanders supporters had hoped for an endorsement by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), a liberal like himself who had endorsed similar policies and backed “big structural change.” But that never came, and her exit preceded an increase in Biden’s lead in national polling that would become insurmountable for Sanders.

Sanders’ exit from the race does not mean he is going away entirely. In his remarks on Wednesday, Sanders told supporters his name would remain on the ballot in the coming contest so he could accrue delegates to exert influence on the party platform.
 
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