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serious question, outside of roe v wade, which they already have enough judges to overturn and some people think the repubs wont actually federally overturn it because then they can no longer use it to garner votes. but outside of that, what else is the SC going to do differently whether its trump or biden? is the democrat judge going to overturn citizens united? they gonna stop gerrymandering and all that ? like seriously what else is a democratic judge good for except making roe vs wade a closer loss if its overturned?

its always funny to me that especially black people act like racism just started with trump or that it wasnt already EXTREMELY racist in this country the day before trump got elected. or that we arent already at the point of fascist vs ultra fascist. dudes acting like some bougie white people acting like joe fukkin biden is gonna be in charge and it will all be good. did dudes forget BLM came to prominence with a black man as president and he was a democrat? at this point im honestly hard pressed to really say there is any harm reduction or if it matters. if the planet is going to burn, what good is it if bidens paris agreement makes it burn but with slightly less carbon emissions ? you get my point, mad people will die and be in poverty regardless of whos president. and with bidens dementia, its likely youll have a bunch of bankers and war hawks running his administration. he already said bloomberg and jamie dimon convicted fraudster will be in there
 

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serious question, outside of roe v wade, which they already have enough judges to overturn and some people think the repubs wont actually federally overturn it because then they can no longer use it to garner votes. but outside of that, what else is the SC going to do differently whether its trump or biden? is the democrat judge going to overturn citizens united? they gonna stop gerrymandering and all that ? like seriously what else is a democratic judge good for except making roe vs wade a closer loss if its overturned?
its always funny to me that especially black people act like racism just started with trump or that it wasnt already EXTREMELY racist in this country the day before trump got elected. or that we arent already at the point of fascist vs ultra fascist. dudes acting like some bougie white people acting like joe fukkin biden is gonna be in charge and it will all be good. did dudes forget BLM came to prominence with a black man as president and he was a democrat? at this point im honestly hard pressed to really say there is any harm reduction or if it matters. if the planet is going to burn, what good is it if bidens paris agreement makes it burn but with slightly less carbon emissions ? you get my point, mad people will die and be in poverty regardless of whos president. and with bidens dementia, its likely youll have a bunch of bankers and war hawks running his administration. he already said bloomberg and jamie dimon convicted fraudster will be in there
At the end of the day, I'd rather have the Dems win the WH and Senate and see how an energized progressive movement holds things to the fire this time around. The war machine is bigger than politicians. And yes, there'll be Wall Street ghouls but its nothing new.

SCOTUS is still gonna be GOP run. But we have to replace Ginsburg and Breyer with very young judges. We only need 51 votes now, so winning the Senate is even more important.

The federal courts below it is a big problem if Trump wins again and McConnell is still Senate Majority Leader.

I'm tired of Trump and the fascistic right wing, I'm glad they have no ideas. But the populist right in people like Hawley are going to be a major problem down the road.


 

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At the end of the day, I'd rather have the Dems win the WH and Senate and see how an energized progressive movement holds things to the fire this time around. The war machine is bigger than politicians. And yes, there'll be Wall Street ghouls but its nothing new.

SCOTUS is still gonna be GOP run. But we have to replace Ginsburg and Breyer with very young judges. We only need 51 votes now, so winning the Senate is even more important.

The federal courts below it is a big problem if Trump wins again and McConnell is still Senate Majority Leader.

I'm tired of Trump and the fascistic right wing, I'm glad they have no ideas. But the populist right in people like Hawley are going to be a major problem down the road.



All the hero worship liberals do for RBG but she should’ve retired under Obama and she’s not even THAT much of a liberal judge she has some questionable descions
 

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It was a huge drop of the ball on his part. Considering the history of “Black Power” and people like Stokley Carmichael organizing and empowering Black voters in the Deep South.

Maybe he felt like establishment Dems had too much of a leg up since Biden was O’s VP but it doesn’t mean you completely ignore that segment of voters. In fact, progressives have done a bad job of reaching out to the poor white voters that are increasingly flocking over to trump. You would think the progressive bloc would have poor whites, poor/middle class Blacks, and immigrants all together under one accord. They gotta solve that.

talking about black specific issues would of been a great start. He refused to do so
 

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talking about black specific issues would of been a great start. He refused to do so

I really don’t get why he didn’t do that. He would’ve easily garnered support. He went out of his way to win the Hispanic vote tho. He could’ve did both and been better off for it.
 

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I'm ready for that 3rd party anti-capitalist energy :yeshrug:

As long as we have to make our arguments from inside the white supremacist tent of the dem party we'll always be forced to water down our message and our vision. Give the people a clear choice and force them to stand for something.


Your posts sums up the illogical thinking of Bernie fans perfectly. Let’s limit capitalism In America, while also increasing taxes.

We’ll have less revenue to tax but somehow we’ll make more money in taxes to pay for all the stuff we want.

the basic math skills of Bernie fans are atrocious.
 

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I really don’t get why he didn’t do that. He would’ve easily garnered support. He went out of his way to win the Hispanic vote tho. He could’ve did both and been better off for it.

He downplayed the black vote significantly while championing for the projected new minority leaders of the Democratic Party; hispanics.

Black ppl losing their political power within the Democratic Party is something a lot of black ppl don’t want to happen.

Plus black ppl in the south just vote different, tons of black South Carolinians voted for Tim Scott for the senate and Hilary for president, the south has a “black first” mentality that Bernie refused to cater to.
 

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Your posts sums up the illogical thinking of Bernie fans perfectly. Let’s limit capitalism In America, while also increasing taxes.

We’ll have less revenue to tax but somehow we’ll make more money in taxes to pay for all the stuff we want.

the basic math skills of Bernie fans are atrocious.

Yeah, the perfect balance is something between out of control Capitalism and over intrusive Socialism. You can add more elements of socialism without throwing out capitalism.
 

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I'm a Progressive and I know this pandemic is an existential threat. Trump failed humanity and gonna wipe out life as we know it on planet earth. Even Biden is much, much better than him.

I love Bernie's message and policies to death, its just that withholding your vote in Nov could mean everything on this planet will die out. I wish this was a normal election, just that the stakes are too damn high this time to stay pissed off and not vote. :ld:
 

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All the hero worship liberals do for RBG but she should’ve retired under Obama and she’s not even THAT much of a liberal judge she has some questionable descions
Yeah I agree. At the same time, id rather have a 5-4 baseline for the next decade rather than a 7-2.
 

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Should Donald Trump or Joe Biden be president.
No.

talking about black specific issues would of been a great start. He refused to do so
This is just a lie. Sanders spoke on black specific issues for decades. Joe Biden lied about marching for civil rights and getting arrested in apartheid South Africa.

I'm a Progressive and I know this pandemic is an existential threat. Trump failed humanity and gonna wipe out life as we know it on planet earth. Even Biden is much, much better than him.

I love Bernie's message and policies to death, its just that withholding your vote in Nov could mean everything on this planet will die out. I wish this was a normal election, just that the stakes are too damn high this time to stay pissed off and not vote. :ld:
No. You're not going to guilt us into voting for this piece of shyt. That worked before but now we see through it. If Trump collapses the American system, good, I'm glad. Bernie was the compromise candidate.
 

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I'm a Progressive and I know this pandemic is an existential threat. Trump failed humanity and gonna wipe out life as we know it on planet earth. Even Biden is much, much better than him.

I love Bernie's message and policies to death, its just that withholding your vote in Nov could mean everything on this planet will die out. I wish this was a normal election, just that the stakes are too damn high this time to stay pissed off and not vote. :ld:

The bold is bullshyt but not because you don't mean well.

And Bernie has been saying what he's saying for how long? 40 years? He even get's shyt on for being nothing but a career protester but ask yourself, in those 40 years, where was "the left" to back him up and take anything resembling direct action to support his ideals? Voting with democrats out of fear and seemingly having no place to go.

And as I said...I understand the propaganda machine wants you to concentrate your hate on that one man. He's a piece of shyt, and has been a piece of shyt for decades while also being an extremely popular celebrity and ICON for capatilism. He is the embodiment of this system, he is the desired result minus the lack of decorum and had people on the so called 'left' actually done something besides fall prey to lesser evil voting we might not have made it to Trump level of capatilistic failure just yet. But it was inevitable, as is a worst Trump as long as we continue to behave the same way we have up til the rise of Bernie Sanders from the last time they strangled the left, weaponized the struggle of marginalized people and gave house nikkas a couple more seats at the table to keep people quiet. That is what they're banking on this time, for this movement to dissipate, fall in line for fears sake and allow themselves to be absorbed and utilized as food to feed the real monster for maybe another 40 years or so before the rabble starts rousing shyt again.

I'M DONE with that. I'm not stupid, I'm not going to follow the bouncing ball of Trump as if he's the problem and let that guide my conscience, the more people raise hell only to fall in line the further and further off they can push the due date for basic human decency in this country. If that is what 'progressive' politics is, if that's what "Warren Democrats" are up to they can have at it. Neera Tanden is a "progressive" too, if that's the case what does it really mean? We're not voting our way out of this...it's a defensive measure, especially for a leftist. I'm ready to go on the offensive.

:yeshrug:
 

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The bold is bullshyt but not because you don't mean well.

And Bernie has been saying what he's saying for how long? 40 years? He even get's shyt on for being nothing but a career protester but ask yourself, in those 40 years, where was "the left" to back him up and take anything resembling direct action to support his ideals? Voting with democrats out of fear and seemingly having no place to go.

And as I said...I understand the propaganda machine wants you to concentrate your hate on that one man. He's a piece of shyt, and has been a piece of shyt for decades while also being an extremely popular celebrity and ICON for capatilism. He is the embodiment of this system, he is the desired result minus the lack of decorum and had people on the so called 'left' actually done something besides fall prey to lesser evil voting we might not have made it to Trump level of capatilistic failure just yet. But it was inevitable, as is a worst Trump as long as we continue to behave the same way we have up til the rise of Bernie Sanders from the last time they strangled the left, weaponized the struggle of marginalized people and gave house nikkas a couple more seats at the table to keep people quiet. That is what they're banking on this time, for this movement to dissipate, fall in line for fears sake and allow themselves to be absorbed and utilized as food to feed the real monster for maybe another 40 years or so before the rabble starts rousing shyt again.

I'M DONE with that. I'm not stupid, I'm not going to follow the bouncing ball of Trump as if he's the problem and let that guide my conscience, the more people raise hell only to fall in line the further and further off they can push the due date for basic human decency in this country. If that is what 'progressive' politics is, if that's what "Warren Democrats" are up to they can have at it. Neera Tanden is a "progressive" too, if that's the case what does it really mean? We're not voting our way out of this...it's a defensive measure, especially for a leftist. I'm ready to go on the offensive.

:yeshrug:

There are other progressives in all levels of government that need everyone's vote in Nov. Just cause You mad at Joe Biden doesnt mean that progressives at the local and state level gotta suffer too. That's selfish for You to do that for them. Even Bernie Sanders himself will tell you that.

You really want Trump to wipe out life on earth and kill your loved one's over your feelings?
 
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