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breh i will never vote for an establisment dem again, somehow the democrats made me more mad this time than 2016, like A LOT more mad. fukk them

its funny we got called cultists but if i was realy in a cult, id listen when bernie tells me to vote for biden. but im not going to
 

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of course they made the woman kicking Bernie darker for some weird gross idpol bullshyt reason. cause clearly biden has black peoples interests at heart and bernie doesnt
j think it and more to downith the fact that it was largely black voters of South Carolina that propelled him into the mamoth lead there that gave him billions in free positive press from the media that lead to his Super Tuesday wins.
 
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breh i will never vote for an establisment dem again, somehow the democrats made me more mad this time than 2016, like A LOT more mad. fukk them

its funny we got called cultists but if i was realy in a cult, id listen when bernie tells me to vote for biden. but im not going to


Never say never my man. Everything is relative. If there are practical or tactical reasons to support someone you despise than you should do so.

I've actually never voted for a Democrat in any presidential election. And kinda funny how so many Democrats for other offices from my state that I either reluctantly voted for or supported in other ways from Mayors, to Senators, to Governors turned out to be literal criminals (Milton Milan :birdman:, Jon Corzine :win:, Jim Mcgreevey :dame:, Robert Menendez :pacspit:).


It's so fukking depressing looking at how mind numbingly :trash: and corrupt the Democratic party is, and has been. :mjcry:
 

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j think it and more to downith the fact that it was largely black voters of South Carolina that propelled him into the mamoth lead there that gave him billions in free positive press from the media that lead to his Super Tuesday wins.
The spun it into black people vs bernie and how black people, with our fond memories of capitalism have soundly rejected the socialist.

Its the same type of manufacturing consent they always do but its way more disgusting. This party is trash, i dont want shyt to do with them
 

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j think it and more to downith the fact that it was largely black voters of South Carolina that propelled him into the mamoth lead there that gave him billions in free positive press from the media that lead to his Super Tuesday wins.
Then they should've made her old. Bernie won black voters over. Just not the older folks.

 

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brehs why didnt bernie block the corporate bailout bill? or at least vote against it? dont you think the pre 2020 bernie votes against it? i mean yeah i get you had to quickly get the crumbs to regular people but fukk that you cant just let the wealthy steal all this money. i know hes semi persona non grata on here and i also soured on him a little but jimmy dore had a great interview with dylan ratigan that really explained the economics of this whole situation well. although dude twice hinted at the eltie being a satanic cult lol but whatever thats not the part that interested me. its thats all these people bernie and aoc, ok they gave a speech and they say what regular people want to here. but if it doesnt lead to anything tangible at the end of the day, then its still just lip service, its just better than someone saying a bunch of platitudes but thats as far as it goes. starting to think putting faith in bernie or aoc or any of these people is stupid. none of them have the guts to truly challenge anything. even though they dont owe anybody favors per se cause they dont take big money, they still bow down to pelosi and schumer at the end of the day, its garbage that aoc called pelosi momma bear,. shes trash and literally gave trump everything he wanted since his election, but she rips up a paper or does a slow clap and its all good
 

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brehs why didnt bernie block the corporate bailout bill? or at least vote against it? dont you think the pre 2020 bernie votes against it? i mean yeah i get you had to quickly get the crumbs to regular people but fukk that you cant just let the wealthy steal all this money. i know hes semi persona non grata on here and i also soured on him a little but jimmy dore had a great interview with dylan ratigan that really explained the economics of this whole situation well. although dude twice hinted at the eltie being a satanic cult lol but whatever thats not the part that interested me. its thats all these people bernie and aoc, ok they gave a speech and they say what regular people want to here. but if it doesnt lead to anything tangible at the end of the day, then its still just lip service, its just better than someone saying a bunch of platitudes but thats as far as it goes. starting to think putting faith in bernie or aoc or any of these people is stupid. none of them have the guts to truly challenge anything. even though they dont owe anybody favors per se cause they dont take big money, they still bow down to pelosi and schumer at the end of the day, its garbage that aoc called pelosi momma bear,. shes trash and literally gave trump everything he wanted since his election, but she rips up a paper or does a slow clap and its all good
True leftists politics has always been from the ground up, not the top down. The left, by and large, lost sight of that during this primary and became seduced by the celebrity spectacle of Presidential politics and started looking for a messiah to do all the work for them. This applies to Bernie fans and Warren fans. Which Democrat occupies the office of the Presidency shouldn't even really be that consequential to the long-term leftist project, with the exception of the arena of foreign policy. The goal is to create an environment within which policy-making is forced to hew to progressive values, not roll the dice on a killshot.
 

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brehs why didnt bernie block the corporate bailout bill? or at least vote against it? dont you think the pre 2020 bernie votes against it? i mean yeah i get you had to quickly get the crumbs to regular people but fukk that you cant just let the wealthy steal all this money. i know hes semi persona non grata on here and i also soured on him a little but jimmy dore had a great interview with dylan ratigan that really explained the economics of this whole situation well. although dude twice hinted at the eltie being a satanic cult lol but whatever thats not the part that interested me. its thats all these people bernie and aoc, ok they gave a speech and they say what regular people want to here. but if it doesnt lead to anything tangible at the end of the day, then its still just lip service, its just better than someone saying a bunch of platitudes but thats as far as it goes. starting to think putting faith in bernie or aoc or any of these people is stupid. none of them have the guts to truly challenge anything. even though they dont owe anybody favors per se cause they dont take big money, they still bow down to pelosi and schumer at the end of the day, its garbage that aoc called pelosi momma bear,. shes trash and literally gave trump everything he wanted since his election, but she rips up a paper or does a slow clap and its all good

Jimmy Dore heel turned on Bernie after that Matt Stoller interview too.

Anyway, he and Dylan Rattigan are right in that progressives are terrified of wielding power and governing. Its the same issue with Pelosi and Schumer types, they don't want to govern and instead do the marching orders of the big donors.

We have a huge problem with the Dems, the left, whoever, not wanting to actually wield their power if they have it.

And Bernie and AOC wouldn't have blocked the bill. They are team players and despite Bernie being an ''independent', he's not a rebel. Bernie is on Schumer's leadership team and Bernie was basically backing his guy's deal when he went on the Senate floor to pop shyt at the GOP Senators.

Look at the fight over Obamacare in 2009-10. Bernie wasn't going to block that bill despite its massive flaws... why? Cause he and Jim Clyburn got the community health center package in there and the ACA had other provisions that would expand insurance and change some vital rules..

AOC is so new to this, she's done good and she's made mistakes, but people cancelling her are stupid.
 

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True leftists politics has always been from the ground up, not the top down. The left, by and large, lost sight of that during this primary and became seduced by the celebrity spectacle of Presidential politics and started looking for a messiah to do all the work for them. This applies to Bernie fans and Warren fans. Which Democrat occupies the office of the Presidency shouldn't even really be that consequential to the long-term leftist project, with the exception of the arena of foreign policy. The goal is to create an environment within which policy-making is forced to hew to progressive values, not roll the dice on a killshot.
Yeah this is on point , the left isn’t as much about electoralism but we did forget I think maybe just the right idea that someone on the left had a real shot at the presidency seemed so impossible so just getting close or having any chance at it was a seduction
 
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