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God, you guys are depressing.

BIden was left for dead. No money. Campaign running on fumes.

He managed to come back.

Bernie isnt close to where Biden was. He can come back too, if he makes the right choices.
The democratic party has coalesced around Joe Biden. Pretty much all his formal rivals have endorsed him. He is the party's official choice and he has a delegate lead that for Bernie at this point is almost insurmountable.

You don't have to admit it now but this thing is pretty much over. Sanders needs to blow Biden outta the water in places to make up for it and that won't happen now that it's a 2 man race.

There are some hard truths Progressives will have to swallow when Sanders candidacy officially fails. Chief among them is an insurgent campaign won't work on the Democrat's side. When all the other rivals where in the race and the vote was split Sanders had a real shot but the party saw that and put a stop to it quick. They knew that he had about a 30% base and if they didn't get everyone else out of the race Sanders like Trump before him would build too much momentum with the party fragmented.

They came together and ended it swiftly. It's actually pretty impressive. Not a single one of them backed Sanders. It's time to admit the guy is just too polarizing to ever make it out of the primaries.
 

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Yeah, Anti-Bernie/Never Bernie buffoons are going on ignore-on-site status after this. It's insulting to my intelligence and my life to say this man or his message should in any shape, form, or fashion be rejected. Let alone by poor and/or black people.
Man I wish Obama had the passion and drive that Bernie does.. Instead he lets citi group decide who his cabinet is...fukking pathetic.
 

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I feel if he loses this he needs to go full throttle with supporting the next progressive that has a shot. I think Nina Turner needs to be that person and run for public office. She has a national image and would do well as a Senator or even State Rep. She does that for a few years and then runs in 2024. She has the power to galvanize the youth vote AND the black vote would be in the bag. Honestly the only way the establishment might be able to take it from her is by running Michelle Obama who, to her credit, is wildly popular.
 

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the irony here is there are thousands of people that will get up and vote for this man this year that will be dead or bankrupt in a few years because they can't afford the healthcare that they may have had if Bernie was president. I don't get how you can be so blinded that you shoot yourself in the foot over and over again.
 

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the irony here is there are thousands of people that will get up and vote for this man this year that will be dead or bankrupt in a few years because they can't afford the healthcare that they may have had if Bernie was president. I don't get how you can be so blinded that you shoot yourself in the foot over and over again.

I say, let them. Then the United Nations will drop the ether to America on how the private healthcare puts them in the backburner of all 1st world countries.
 

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I feel if he loses this he needs to go full throttle with supporting the next progressive that has a shot. I think Nina Turner needs to be that person and run for public office. She has a national image and would do well as a Senator or even State Rep. She does that for a few years and then runs in 2024. She has the power to galvanize the youth vote AND the black vote would be in the bag. Honestly the only way the establishment might be able to take it from her is by running Michelle Obama who, to her credit, is wildly popular.
Unfortunately, i think the best shot for progressives to win is to have a charismatic white man at this point. If a white women like Hillary Clinton couldn't defeat a baffon like Donald Trump, that tells you how the country feels about a woman as president. I don't think America is ready let alone a black progressive woman.
 

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Yeah, Anti-Bernie/Never Bernie buffoons are going on ignore-on-site status after this. It's insulting to my intelligence and my life to say this man or his message should in any shape, form, or fashion be rejected. Let alone by poor and/or black people.
bu bu but how you gone turn em in the swing states... bu bu but, you cant think he's electable. he can't win. they are afraid of socialism. no one will vote for him in those swing states. cause see, look at the primaries, that tells you everything.(as if hilary didnt win the primaries and lose the general).

I told yall, his message resonates with all people who are not selfish. it resonates with anyone who is in need. all you have to do is get the news out the way with the bs. This crowd response on fox news tells me he has already won the minds of a lot of different people. which is a great thing for the actual movement.

Remember everyone trusts bernie including republicans. it doesnt mean they will vote for him. it means they wont be angry enough to come out in droves and vote against him. thats plan B how you beat trump. you either need a crazy turn out in the purples from independents and non voting dems. or you need some repubs to stay at home. Bernie could do both in a general.
 

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Unfortunately, i think the best shot for progressives to win is to have a charismatic white man at this point. If a white women like Hillary Clinton couldn't defeat a baffon like Donald Trump, that tells you how the country feels about a woman as president. I don't think America is ready let alone a black progressive woman.
wrong. they hated hilary. and we all saw how hilary and the dnc did bernie. Bad choice. no matter that she was super qualified for the position. its like having someone that has worked at a company for 20 years, and has shown many times they can lead. But they are a horrible people person. yet they are applying for the position of manager. nope. cant give it to you. because you're bad with people.

They may be ready for a woman that can pull out that energy while also being really smart but not condescending. the only issue is with the next one. its going to be hard to have one with such a long track record so now we're going to have to pray that they arent lying. that will be the new hurdle.
 
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