New Jeruzalem Journalist
Superstar
Whoah, what?
I tuned out a bit last week and threw Warren in the bushes even before that so this slipped my radar.
If this is true she'll officially go from
to 
in my eyes.
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Whoah, what?
I tuned out a bit last week and threw Warren in the bushes even before that so this slipped my radar.
If this is true she'll officially go from
to in my eyes.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
a tie per this survey, but open to seeing exit poll dataIs it true true that Bernie is winning independents in most of these contests? There's your electability argument there but it looks like doesn't matter at this point
My mom sent me a text and told me she voted for Bernie. Told her i would be voting for him this evening and even if he doesn't win at least we we're on the right side of history...
afterlife2009
Superstar
I hate tweets like this cause whatever "leftist" runs for office next is gonna run into the same problems with the media. While I think there's some things the campaign could have done different, there's no secret to getting the fake news media to work against their own interests lol! We needed Warren out after South Carolina but shouts to the Persist PAC
Read Hate Inc by Matt Taibbi or check out the doc Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky to understand. Taibbi's book is an easier read, Chomsky's book is kinda boring tbh but it's good. That's why I said part of goal for the left is to destroy the liberal media establishment. Also Greenwald gets at what I've been talking about regarding the dem electorate. Brehs in this section and other Dem voters have moved to the right. Guys like David Frum and John Brennan have become heroes. They rank getting Trump out over any policy issue
Read Hate Inc by Matt Taibbi or check out the doc Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky to understand. Taibbi's book is an easier read, Chomsky's book is kinda boring tbh but it's good. That's why I said part of goal for the left is to destroy the liberal media establishment. Also Greenwald gets at what I've been talking about regarding the dem electorate. Brehs in this section and other Dem voters have moved to the right. Guys like David Frum and John Brennan have become heroes. They rank getting Trump out over any policy issue
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
We need a troll who gets people to watch like Trump. He got tons of media albeit negative but it worked. Bernie was fukkin' nice to the media and it didn't work. We need someone despite not being nice to them gets them viewers anyway and we will get the eyeballs we need. They will always give in to ratings no matter the message.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Hasn't even won and is already on some nevermind shyt with universal healthcare.
Moderate Dem politicians aren't about shyt except lining their pockets. afterlife2009
Superstar
the difference is when Trump was getting scolded by the GOP establishment for shytting on Romney, McCain and other Repubs, he had Breitbart and other big conservative media people on his side. We don't have anything to level of that + Trump being a celebrity helped. The GOP voters hate their party so any establishment coalescing wouldn't have worked.
Trump used his movement to wield power and consolidate establishment support after he won states. After every state he won, he called up the Governors, Senators and house members... and threatened them with his people, endorse or else... Bernie should have tried that after Nevada tbh
If Bernie can’t win after all these years of building a movement, then I don't know who can tbh. The institutional obstacles are just too big. The left should focus on taking over state parties and destroying the liberal media. Plus we had to deal with competing with Warren during the plan war for the very liberal bloc and it took a full year to get some of them back. Most of our left media failed this primary honestly lol
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Hmmm . . . what about. Bullworth type candidate. Like someone who is an Establishment moderate now but flips the script and goes super progressive and in a provacative way? Like Van Hollen, Chris Murphy, Gillebrand just going hard at the DNC out of the blue but it is also very entertaining this gets a lot of coverage?
Uh grasping at straws now. This is sad. 
afterlife2009
Superstar
Ro Khanna is the only one who has establishment relationships but he's still soft and would run into the same institution problems as Bernie. Yeah we need a bully but the problem is the Dem electorate believes in our rotten institutions and they'd get scolded hard.Hmmm . . . what about. Bullworth type candidate. Like someone who is an Establishment moderate now but flips the script and goes super progressive and in a provacative way? Like Van Hollen, Chris Murphy, Gillebrand just going hard at the DNC out of the blue but it is also very entertaining this gets a lot of coverage?
Could you imagine Bernie telling a union worker that he's full of shyt and would slap him in the face like Biden just did a few hours? What about lying that he got arrested with Mandela lmao? We'd have non stop panel coverage about this is not what a statesman does. Burn the fake news media to the ground!
When your media is Cenk, Greenwald and Kulinski lol
afterlife2009
Superstar
Greenwald and Kyle are pretty good imo but Kyle is just a YouTuber and Glenn is mostly focused on Brazil’s fukkery
Cenk and TYT were mostly awful this primary. He was one of the many progressive media people that obfuscated the ideological differences between Warren and Bernie. He wasn’t the only lefty media person doing it either
afterlife2009
Superstar
just a youtuber though and while they have influence and can set narratives among progressives, legacy newspapers and cable news still are kingmakers for Democrats
Glenn is too busy beefing with Bolsnaro and pulling up on the Useful idiot power hour on Fox lol