storyteller
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and again, Bernie's M4A bill is not eligible to be passed through reconciliation, so if Dems cannot repeal the filibuster, he has to go the 60 votes route.
If Dems can’t repeal the filibuster how does Warren get around it?
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If Dems can’t repeal the filibuster how does Warren get around it?
Brehs
if Bernie is the nominee, how much does he raise after the primary?
if Bernie is the nominee, how much does he raise after the primary?
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Warren's healthcare expansion plan is eligible for reconciliation because it doesn't outright ban private insurance and therefore only needs 50 votes.
storyteller
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Warren’s plan doesn’t ban duplicative private insurance? It just got way shyttier in my book then.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Well the shyttier you find the plan, the more likely it is to actually be enacted, so I don't really know what your book is worth.
Her first step is to give everyone over 50, under 18 and families making less than $51K M4A for free. Everyone else can buy into an M4A public option. Banning private insurance would come in the second step of her plan.
storyteller
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So what you’re saying is, aspects of her plan that completely overlap with Bernie’s could be implemented but you don’t know how bernie could get anything implemented? Because the M4A expansion is modeled straight off of his plan. His year one was down to 55 though.
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King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
huh? What I'm saying is that there are rules to what can be passed through reconciliation and what can't, and Bernie's full M4A bill cannot. It's almost as if Warren designed her plan to remove those aspects that can't be passed and kept in the ones that can, so she can expand M4A healthcare as much as possible, knowing that the full thing can't be passed immediately.
It doesn't matter what his year one transition is, if the bill contains provisions that would eradicate private health insurance it cannot be passed with 50 votes...unless you get rid of the filibuster, which Liz supports but Bernie has steadfastly refused to support for some reason. I'm sure Bernie could get healthcare expansion implemented if he removed certain ineligible provisions from his bill...aka the Liz Warren plan
Early state tracking... Down 7 points. Damn.
OfTheCross
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OfTheCross
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I’m not worried but damn. I really think most people don’t pay attention and just think oh yeah Obama’s Vice President lets go with him. If Biden wins we’re back at square one and if anything we went further to the right as a party, which I know part of is just choosing the most name recognition but still fukkin Biden. Why don’t we just fully become republicans. Today he’s saying and I know it was asked but still that he’d be open to choosing a republican running mate . Where are all the party loyalists talking about Bernie isn’t a real dem now their boy is saying he’d run with a republican. Why not chose a former segregationist if there any alive while you’re at it joe ?
PoorAndDangerous
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Depends how many young people vote. If they vote in historic numbers Bernie can win.I’m stumped at how Biden can be knocked off in the primary
We’re so fukked
AnonymityX1000
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That's our only hope unfortunately. I mean if Biden wins the nomination I will vote for him and hope he beats Trump but I don't have a lot of faith in his chances.