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Bernie's been on a slow but steady rise for a while now. I did a quick run through on RCP polling and it looks like he's hitting his highest numbers since Biden jumped into the race while Biden and Warren are starting to decline. Pete's gaining faster, but I think he's liable to be on another media based run like so many other options who had quick rises and equally fast falls. I think we're still gonna settle into Bernie, Warren and Biden as the top three.
 

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By keeping your military operations there? Is our involvement really making a difference? If anything it is creating a dependent situation with no exit. Plus we pick and choose which dictators to oppose and which to partner with. It is not at all a principled effort. We just out here fukkibg with other countries' sovereignty for our own benefit.
Nothing you just typed answered my question. Though I'm not surprised you continue to cape for this trash.

Being anti Saddam doesn't make you pro Iraqi. Does that concept need an explanation? Do we really need to walk through the pro/anti framework?
 

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Nothing you just typed answered my question. Though I'm not surprised you continue to cape for this trash.

Being anti Saddam doesn't make you pro Iraqi. Does that concept need an explanation? Do we really need to walk through the pro/anti framework?
What I bolded had a question mark after it, what are you talking about? I didn't answer the question you want is all. lol
Do you think we should have invaded Iraq? Or kept a brutal dictator who gassed his own people in leadership?
 

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What I bolded had a question mark after it, what are you talking about? I didn't answer the question you want is all. lol
Do you think we should have invaded Iraq? Or kept a brutal dictator who gassed his own people in leadership?
Anti intervention doesn't make you a humanitarian. How many different ways must this be explained?

You're not making the point you think you are because I never supported colonialism, or proxy cold war aggression, much like I would never support Hindu extremist.

Your analysis of Iraq is restricted to leadership and the 2003 invasion, when the conditions that led to the war were established well before an American soldier stepped foot on that land.
 

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Bernie's been on a slow but steady rise for a while now. I did a quick run through on RCP polling and it looks like he's hitting his highest numbers since Biden jumped into the race while Biden and Warren are starting to decline. Pete's gaining faster, but I think he's liable to be on another media based run like so many other options who had quick rises and equally fast falls. I think we're still gonna settle into Bernie, Warren and Biden as the top three.



If Bernie becomes the 2nd choice amongst all of the scrub candidates he'll win once they start dropping out
 

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Anti intervention doesn't make you a humanitarian. How many different ways must this be explained?

You're not making the point you think you are because I never supported colonialism, or proxy cold war aggression, much like I would never support Hindu extremist.

Your analysis of Iraq is restricted to leadership and the 2003 invasion, when the conditions that led to the war were established well before an American soldier stepped foot on that land.
Intervention definitely doesn't either because it comes along with civilian casualties. :francis:
Besides plan yoga and Hindu conferences with fellow Hindus Tulsi hasn't supported Hindu extremists either. And newsflash :India is our ally in the region she isn't doing anything past presidents haven't done. It's a weak point to make.
Let Iraqis solve Iraq's problems. Unless you believe in American exceptionalism or something ?You wouldn't want a foreign nation coming into the US trying to solve a humanitarian problem would you?
 

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Tulsi is talking about pulling out the Middle East entirely, ending war adventures, and directly engaging with dictators and authoritarians.

But people think that's not radical? :picard:
its not radical. radical is running up into everyone's country trying to push your agenda and losing lives in the process and destabilizing entire regions not just a country here or there.
 

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Why is ending war considered radical?
It is a vastly different tact then what we are currently doing so I guess that is what is meant.
And Tulsi is for drone strikes and possible military cooperation with Middle Eastern countries but not over throwing governments or 'staying engaged' indefinitely. An exit strategy before even entering is a must for her.
 

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its not radical. radical is running up into everyone's country trying to push your agenda and losing lives in the process and destabilizing entire regions not just a country here or there.

But it's been US foreign policy for at least 70 years to do that. So yeah, this is radical. That includes the decision to leaving that region basically in the hands of Russia.

I don't disagree with you, but non-interventionalism being US foreign policy is almost new and uncharted territory.
 
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