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False it drowns out minority interest, groups such as Iowa farmers and Ohio factory workers would be ignored in favor of pandering to metropolitan areas with higher population densities, leaving rural areas and small towns marginalized.
I doubt the union wouldn't last long.
Bullshyt.

The number of Black folk marginalized by the electoral college in Mississippi, Alabama, and South Carolina alone is FAR greater than the minority swing state groups you mentioned. There are only a few states that are catered to, and they will still be catered to by their distorted impact in the Senate.

But marginalized minority groups across America will generally have a much greater impact on the result than they did when their minority status within their state made their votes meaningless.
 

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Always worth looking at a few of the typical talking points used against Democratic Socialism and hear some simple rebuttals to those one sides and cherry picked approaches. Shapiro's speech is basically the template for right wing attacks on damn near everything Bernie proposes and this woman does a great job of offering fairly concise and informative responses. Arm yourselves with the knowledge fam because these lazy talking points get thrown around a lot.
 

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This is Bernie's silent advantage. All the other candidates have had to spend like fukking crazy already (John Delaney has spent damn near $20M already, though a lot of that is money laundering because he's a rich scumbag and his campaign was literally just a giant loan to himself to write off and get the money tax free) to get air time, ads, national recognition and on and on and on.

Sanders has spent very judiciously and wisely, he knows that he can maintain his position because his floor is so high that he can simply build a reserve that the other candidates can't hope to hold on too. This not only helps him "stick around" longest but it gives him an immeasurable advantage that he can leverage all his financing to go full bore into MASSIVELY expanding his grassroots outreach and programs, something he couldn't do against Clinton until it was almost time for the first primary.

I honestly think it's his biggest advantage, that he doesn't need to spend the money to be effective, but that he has it to tactically use to massively boost his message when necessary and doesn't need it to keep himself relevant with constant airtime like Biden and Warren and Harris do.
 
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What's also incredible is how Buttjoke and O'Rourke surged ahead massively in terms of single day/week campaign financing early on but have plateaued since. O'Rourke especially is just pitiful. But Buttjoke has a lot of hush hush money that he's taken and he still can barely crack 5% on any reputable polling.

People are vastly underestimating Sanders capacity to kick his campaign into another gear once we get closer to October/November. He's maintained a strong financial base which, like his popularity floor, isn't going to go away or vaporize because the powers that be decide to shift their chips on to somebody else.

Really the biggest threat right now is Steyer basically using his campaign as a dummy to dump money into whoever is around Bernie in finances in order to give them an advantage. Though as is pointed out, Biden's burning through cash so quickly basically because he's had to spend his entire campaign putting out fires and telling people "no I'm Obama's cool friend, remember, not the racist grandpa". Another signal that he's teetering on the edge of just total collapse at any moment. So it'll probably be Harris who gets the majority of dark money.
 

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What's also incredible is how Buttjoke and O'Rourke surged ahead massively in terms of single day/week campaign financing early on but have plateaued since. O'Rourke especially is just pitiful. But Buttjoke has a lot of hush hush money that he's taken and he still can barely crack 5% on any reputable polling.

People are vastly underestimating Sanders capacity to kick his campaign into another gear once we get closer to October/November. He's maintained a strong financial base which, like his popularity floor, isn't going to go away or vaporize because the powers that be decide to shift their chips on to somebody else.

Really the biggest threat right now is Steyer basically using his campaign as a dummy to dump money into whoever is around Bernie in finances in order to give them an advantage. Though as is pointed out, Biden's burning through cash so quickly basically because he's had to spend his entire campaign putting out fires and telling people "no I'm Obama's cool friend, remember, not the racist grandpa". Another signal that he's teetering on the edge of just total collapse at any moment. So it'll probably be Harris who gets the majority of dark money.
Bernie biggest issue is that he's at 100% name recognition and isn't the clear frontrunner. I don't know what room he has to grow, electorally. Same issue with Biden. They're both pretty much at their ceiling, poll wise, unless other candidates start dropping out.
 

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Bernie biggest issue is that he's at 100% name recognition and isn't the clear frontrunner. I don't know what room he has to grow, electorally. Same issue with Biden. They're both pretty much at their ceiling, poll wise, unless other candidates start dropping out.


I think it's goign to be about who gets their voters out during the primary, which if he still has the network and inroads to younger (college) voters could help him a bit more, I think the same for Harris. That's why I don't see how folks can really look to far into these polls before the real door to door campaigning begins.
 

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Im pretty surprised that bernie isnt as successful this time around

Hes polished his message a little and has gotten a bit sharper on foreign policy but its starting to seem like he was really capitalizing on hillary's unfavorables more than i thought he was in 2016
Polls are not results, just sayin' . . .
 

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Im pretty surprised that bernie isnt as successful this time around
Last time they didn't consider him a threat. Now they realize he's serious, so the entire establishment and their whores in the media are doing everything they can to shut him down.

And it ain't working.

See you at Iowa. :jawalrus:
 

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Biden, Sanders Still Have Best Images Among Democrats

In a Gallup poll conducted shortly after the first round of Democratic debates, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden continue to enjoy the highest favorability ratings of all major Democratic contenders among the party's base.

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