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Republicans want to have their cake and eat it too. After the Supreme Court made this decision which basically makes gerrymandering an even bigger issue than it already is...I say gloves are off. Eliminate the electoral college, stack the court than change the process entirely and point to the breakdown of the system spurred on by Republicans who stacked the deck in their favor by abusing the electoral college to their own advantages in the first place.

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Probably also worth noting the the Senate allowing just 2 reps regardless of the size of the population is a pretty nice way to keep those states' representation fair and influential as it is without devaluing the votes of the majority of Americans in the name of states with a smaller population.
the senate also has to go, some billionaire buys one of the seats in north dakota and now has a permanent vote in his favor out of the 100, and they do it in multiple states.
 

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Being from say Cali , and having California "in your pocket" would be a huge head start in a popular vote over candidates from much smaller flyover states.
Seems obvious, unless im missing something?

Abolishing the EC is a leftist policy that unlocks the huge majorities held in CA and NY, and diminishes geographic diversity. The EC protects the little guy, and while possibly in need of some form of reform(im a fan of the maine an Nebraska provisions) shouldn't be abolished. tyranny of the majority blah blah blah, gang rape is direct democracy blah blah blah


:whew:imagine a national recount... the fukkery

I dont get your point:childplease:, youre acting like these states dont already have huge numbers of electoral votes that are fairly representative of population size. If anything it unlocks the minority party's power in these states. See where swallowing right wing talking points whole leads you :francis:
 

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I dont get your point:childplease:, youre acting like these states dont already have huge numbers of electoral votes that are fairly representative of population size. If anything it unlocks the minority party's power in these states. See where swallowing right wing talking points whole leads you :francis:
False it drowns out minority interest, groups such as Iowa farmers and Ohio factory workers would be ignored in favor of pandering to metropolitan areas with higher population densities, leaving rural areas and small towns marginalized.
I doubt the union wouldn't last long.
 

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It’s not a given that Sanders voters would flock to Warren, or vice versa, if one of them left the race and endorsed the other. In Morning Consult, Reuters-Ipsos and Washington Post-ABC News polls, more Sanders supporters name Biden as their second choice than Warren — and a higher percentage of Warren voters pick Kamala Harris as their No. 2 than Sanders, according to recent surveys.

Sanders and Warren voters have astonishingly little in common
 

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Didn't we settle the arguments about being a federated union of states when we literally had a fukking war over it? The union won.

The electoral college is plaintively broken, unfair, and doesn't work. Nobody campaigns in Mississippi or Wyoming or North Dakota NOW you dummies, because for a presidential vote and ONLY A PRESIDENTIAL VOTE they are unimportant because they are so partisan. If you remove the barrier of the electoral college maybe more people will come out and vote. :russ: There are more potentially activated voters from both sides that benefit from no longer having to simply sit at home because they know there's no point to anything when the electoral college is there. fukk I live in MA and I didn't even vote for Clinton because I knew the vote was meaningless here and she'd win the state overwhelmingly (and she did). I voted for Terry Crews :banderas:

It's a system designed from 200 years ago, the concept that "bigger states will push around smaller ones" is asinine and reductive, it doesn't happen. Most larger states already subsidize these smaller ones to be able to run the programs and bills they need anyway.
 

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Y'all just don't want it to go away because the Republicans have lost the popular vote in every single election since 2006 :russ: Just be honest.
 
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