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iPhone 8 reportedly won’t come with Touch ID

I'm officially out of the running for this piece of crap OLED iPhone. The Wall Street Journal has confirmed no Touch ID period on it. Apple couldn't imbed it under the screen so they outright scrapped the feature.

I use that for LassPass and Apple Pay. I'm not going back to typing in all these passwords. Unacceptable. Even worse than Samsung cramming the scanner on the back in that weird spot. At least it's there though with Apple I'm supposed to pay more for less?

So next year when the tech gets sorted out and they put it back in under the glass then what? Facial recognition can be fooled by a picture of you. Just isn't secure enough to have critical data secured by.

I'm not spending more for the compromised phone they settled for.
 

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iPhone 8 reportedly won’t come with Touch ID

I'm officially out of the running for this piece of crap OLED iPhone. The Wall Street Journal has confirmed no Touch ID period on it. Apple couldn't imbed it under the screen so they outright scrapped the feature.

I use that for LassPass and Apple Pay. I'm not going back to typing in all these passwords. Unacceptable. Even worse than Samsung cramming the scanner on the back in that weird spot. At least it's there though with Apple I'm supposed to pay more for less?

So next year when the tech gets sorted out and they put it back in under the glass then what? Facial recognition can be fooled by a picture of you. Just isn't secure enough to have critical data secured by.

I'm not spending more for the compromised phone they settled for.
I thought it was well known already that touch id won't be included this isn't news.
 

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iPhone 8 reportedly won’t come with Touch ID

I'm officially out of the running for this piece of crap OLED iPhone. The Wall Street Journal has confirmed no Touch ID period on it. Apple couldn't imbed it under the screen so they outright scrapped the feature.

I use that for LassPass and Apple Pay. I'm not going back to typing in all these passwords. Unacceptable. Even worse than Samsung cramming the scanner on the back in that weird spot. At least it's there though with Apple I'm supposed to pay more for less?

So next year when the tech gets sorted out and they put it back in under the glass then what? Facial recognition can be fooled by a picture of you. Just isn't secure enough to have critical data secured by.

I'm not spending more for the compromised phone they settled for.

Don't get me wrong I would much rather they put a fingerprint even if it was on the back but:

We've been known that for months now, what's with the sudden outrage.:yeshrug:

And Apples facial recognition is said to be leaps and bounds above Samsungs implementation in their current flagships. A lot more secure and apparently not able to be fooled with a picture.

From reports:
Captures more data points than TouchID, so more secure
3D system as opposed to 2D ala Samsung
According to KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is planning on eliminating Touch ID entirely in the iPhone 8 and replacing it with a new security system that's based on facial recognition. Facial recognition capabilities powered by new 3D sensors have long been rumored for the iPhone 8, but it wasn't suggested until recently that the functionality would replace Touch ID entirely.

Kuo's prediction has been echoed by JP Morgan analyst Rod Hall and Bloomberg, with the site suggesting Apple will introduce an "improved" security system that will let customers unlock their iPhones and make Apple Pay payments with facial recognition instead of a Touch ID fingerprint sensor. Apple's 3D sensing facial recognition system is advanced and can unlock an iPhone within a few hundred milliseconds.

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It's said to work even when an iPhone is set on a table, so it's functional from many different angles and should not be a hassle to use even when making payments at a terminal, and evidence of this functionality was found in HomePod firmware. It captures more data points than a fingerprint scan, so it's more secure than Touch ID, and Apple is also using 3D depth perception techniques that will prevent the facial recognition from being fooled by a photograph.

Along with being able to detect a face when lying flat, the sensors in the iPhone 8 are also believed to keep the device unlocked as long as a face is in range, and the facial recognition feature also mutes incoming notifications so long as a user is looking at the phone.

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HomePod firmware hinting at a "resting unlock" feature for the iPhone 8. Pearl is the code name for the device's facial recognition technology.


Apple itself has confirmed that a facial recognition system is in the works, through an accidental firmware leak. Buried in HomePod firmware that was released early, there are hints of what's coming in the iPhone 8. There are multiple references to infrared face detection in the BiometricKit framework that's used for Touch ID, confirming rumors suggesting the iPhone 8 will rely either partially or entirely on new facial recognition capabilities.

"FaceDetect" methods inside of BiometricKit address face detection circumstances like faces being too far or too close to the camera, the presence of multiple faces, and more, while additional references are made to infrared functionality, which confirms it will use new infrared sensors for facial recognition even in low light. Apple is said to be using a high pixel density front-facing camera and other advanced sensors.

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The code name for the facial recognition functionality appears to be "Pearl," but it's not yet clear what Apple will name the feature when it launches.

Based on additional information found in the firmware, the iPhone 8's facial recognition capabilities are likely to work with Apple Pay, perhaps allowing facial recognition to replace a fingerprint as an authentication method. Facial recognition can also be used by third-party apps and it may support multiple faces, much like Touch ID.
 

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Weve known about no Touch id since early summer.

homepod firmware confirmed it in like july.

I trust apple with this, not really worried.
I could accept the lack of a headphone jack but the fingerprint scanner is an integral part of how I use the phone. Hell some of the apps I use just got Touch ID logins not too long ago.

Face ID ain't gonna cut it. It takes at least a year for developers to add in new features like this. 3D Touch was the same way. I had the 6s and it really wasn't till the 7 that it became pretty common.

Too many apps I use incorporate Touch ID. It's not even about unlocking the phone. For me it's about that being the definitive way to log into stuff without having to remember passwords.

I can't pay more for them removing stuff I use. They should have put it in the back of the phone. Hell put it in the Apple logo.
 

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Rofl at a $1000 phone

Sheep :mjlol:

I will never spend over $200 for a phone

Ever

Apple :hhh:
 
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