[Official] Apple iPhone X:OUT NOW!

[neph27]

you arent saving $480 if you are spending $1100 on the phone compared to $200 dumbass mafukka

of course not. what I'm saying is that as a result of the "no contract standard" in the industry your bill is $480 cheaper over two years. if it's an $1100 phone on a two year contract the pricing would've been like 600 up front for the phone and then your line is 40 instead of 20. you were ALWAYS paying for the phone regardless of if it was a contract or not.

all I'm saying is spending $ on a phone is the same no matter if it's the new way or the old way. I thought you were implying that 2 year contracts saved people money.

 

[itsyoung!!]

of course not. what I'm saying is that as a result of the "no contract standard" in the industry your bill is $480 cheaper over two years. if it's an $1100 phone on a two year contract the pricing would've been like 600 up front for the phone and then your line is 40 instead of 20. you were ALWAYS paying for the phone regardless of if it was a contract or not.

all I'm saying is spending $ on a phone is the same no matter if it's the new way or the old way. I thought you were implying that 2 year contracts saved people money.

my bill has always been around $100 a month. 2 year contract or not. difference is now i foot the bill for the whole phone price where before they were subsidized to me at a lower cost in exchange for 2 years of loyalty.

you are literally the example consumer these CEOs prey on. Why do you think Verizon and AT&T put up little fight to keep contracts they knew they was boutta rape idiots like you and most the general population who are too dumb to use a calculator

They preyed on the smoke/fire caused by T Mobile "be free" standards to a few million broke people and struck immediately. imagine the board meetings

"so wait, they still going to pay us almost the same each month, but they pay the full cost of the phone up front while still being loyal to us cause theirs only 4 major competitors? 2 of them have horrible service and the other 1 is the same cost as us? lets do it "

 

[neph27]

my bill has always been around $100 a month. 2 year contract or not. difference is now i foot the bill for the whole phone price where before they were subsidized to me at a lower cost in exchange for 2 years of loyalty.

you are literally the example consumer these CEOs prey on. Why do you think Verizon and AT&T put up little fight to keep contracts they knew they was boutta rape idiots like you and most the general population who are too dumb to use a calculator

They preyed on the smoke/fire caused by T Mobile "be free" standards to a few million broke people and struck immediately. imagine the board meetings

"so wait, they still going to pay us almost the same each month, but they pay the full cost of the phone up front while still being loyal to us cause theirs only 4 major competitors? 2 of them have horrible service and the other 1 is the same cost as us? lets do it "

you literally ignored everything I said about the actual plan pricing dropping, did no research, and then spouted off a bunch of bullshyt

all of the plans are cheaper because there is not a phone subsidy anymore. you're just flat out wrong. if you have verizon, your bill is 20/mo cheaper per line if you don't have a contract. seriously, go do some research before you act like you know a fukkin thing

 

[itsyoung!!]

you literally ignored everything I said about the actual plan pricing dropping, did no research, and then spouted off a bunch of bullshyt

all of the plans are cheaper because there is not a phone subsidy anymore. you're just flat out wrong. if you have verizon, your bill is 20/mo cheaper per line if you don't have a contract. seriously, go do some research before you act like you know a fukkin thing

so why my bill the same then

i updated it with the iphone 7 and unlimited data. aint nothing change they just allocated the cost some where else

 

[Krazy]

I wouldn't take Benjamin as absolute gospel, just like I wouldn't take the $1000 price tag which originally came from one from Analyst.
Another had this to say:

Analysts: The iPhone 8 is 'unlikely' to cost $1,200


The next iPhone — expected to be named the iPhone 8, the iPhone X, or the iPhone Edition — is "unlikely" to cost the $1,200 (£925) that numerous media outlets reported, according to analysts at UBS.

Instead, they believe that it is more likely to start at around $900 (£694) for a 64GB model, increasing to $1,000 (£771) for a 256GB model.

It's unclear if there will be two or three storage options, but UBS thinks there will be two.

In a note to investors, UBS analyst Steven Milunovich and UBS associate analyst Benjamim Wilson said they "questioned the logic" of a $1,200 flagship iPhone, which is expected to come with no physical home button, a new almost edge-to-edge OLED screen, and facial unlocking technology.

They pointed out that Apple usually prices its flagship Plus models at a slight discount to Samsung's premium Galaxy Note devices. The latest Note 8 device, which was made available for preorder at the end of August, costs $929.99 (£717).

"Apple tends not to price far from the high end competition," the analysts wrote. "With the Galaxy Plus at $840 and the Note at [almost] $950, we think a $900 price tag for the base OLED model makes sense."

They added: "There seems to be a belief that Apple has to charge over $1,000 for the phone. We challenge this premise. The arguments we've heard for a $1,200 phone are, 'to manage supply constraints' and 'because the phone costs more.' Both are inconsistent with how Apple thinks about pricing.

"We don't think Apple thinks 'How much can we charge?' Rather it chooses a price band worth playing in and then develops a product to fill that space. For example, Apple decided the $900-1,000 notebook market was worth entering. It then asked 'What does our $900 MacBook look like?' Enter the MacBook Air. If Apple cannot deliver an experience worthy of the brand at a given price band and profitability level, it does not proceed."

In addition to the next-generation iPhone, Apple is expected to announce two new iPhone 7 models: the iPhone 7S and the iPhone 7S Plus. They're expected to be cheaper than the iPhone 8 but they won't have the same radical redesign.

On August 31, Apple sent out invitations for an event at its new headquarters in California on September 12. At the event, Apple is expected to announce the new iPhones alongside a new version of the Apple Watch, a new version of Apple TV that has 4K resolution, and new iOS 11 software for iPhone and iPads.

Pricing for all of the new iPhones outside the US is even less clear but the new iPhone 8 could be over £1,000 in the UK based on how much some of Apple's other new products currently retail at.

Apple does not comment on rumours and speculation.

Analysts: The iPhone 8 is 'unlikely' to cost $1,200

 

[neph27]

so why my bill the same then

i updated it with the iphone 7 and unlimited data. aint nothing change they just allocated the cost some where else

Because you're paying for a phone. A line was $40. Now it's 20. You're paying for a phone monthly, which means your bill should be roughly the same if it's an iPhone (27-40/mo equip cost)

iPhone 7 128 on 2 year contract
340 up front
40/mo for the line x 24 months = 960
Total cost for phone and line of service 1300

iPhone 7 128 on device payment
$31/mo for 24months = 750
20/mo for the line x 24 months = $480

Total cost for phone and line of service 1230

so yeah, you're paying the same for a phone as you always were. it isn't more expensive now that 2 year contracts are gone. if you finish paying a phone your bill will drop by the amount you were paying for the phone. It gives greater flexibility as well as you aren't tied to an arbitrary contract end date

now if you got your phone from somewhere else, you wouldn't be paying $40 a line like back in the day, it would just be $20. Companies want to encourage people to bring their own device because there are many other places you can buy a phone now (Apple, online, direct from manufacturer, overseas, etc)

 

[Zero]

and mafukkas hated 2 year contracts

 

[R=G]

you literally ignored everything I said about the actual plan pricing dropping, did no research, and then spouted off a bunch of bullshyt

all of the plans are cheaper because there is not a phone subsidy anymore. you're just flat out wrong. if you have verizon, your bill is 20/mo cheaper per line if you don't have a contract. seriously, go do some research before you act like you know a fukkin thing

Lol

 

[itsyoung!!]

Because you're paying for a phone. A line was $40. Now it's 20. You're paying for a phone monthly, which means your bill should be roughly the same if it's an iPhone (27-40/mo equip cost)

iPhone 7 128 on 2 year contract
340 up front
40/mo for the line x 24 months = 960
Total cost for phone and line of service 1300

iPhone 7 128 on device payment
$31/mo for 24months = 750
20/mo for the line x 24 months = $480

Total cost for phone and line of service 1230

so yeah, you're paying the same for a phone as you always were. it isn't more expensive now that 2 year contracts are gone. if you finish paying a phone your bill will drop by the amount you were paying for the phone. It gives greater flexibility as well as you aren't tied to an arbitrary contract end date

now if you got your phone from somewhere else, you wouldn't be paying $40 a line like back in the day, it would just be $20. Companies want to encourage people to bring their own device because there are many other places you can buy a phone now (Apple, online, direct from manufacturer, overseas, etc)

i am legit fukking confused on where you are getting $20 a month for a fukking cell phone plan cheapest verizon plan is 2 gb $35/month which already kills your horrible argument by hundreds of dollars and if you have the unlimited plan like me

unlimited is $80 per month x 24 months = $1,920

iphone 8 middle cost: $1,100

$1,920 + $1,110 = $3020

before middle iphone subsidized price was $299

$1920 + $299 = $2219

you would save $800 with 2 year contract stupid mafukka where the fukk is your dumbass getting $20 a month you must be like 15 years old and see your "additional line for $20" on your parents bill or some stupid shyt , your parents still have to pay for the data you young stupid bytch


our total phone bill has stayed near the same for a decade, they just word it in different ways or reallocate the funds to another part of the bill. if you ever paid a phone bill you would know this. the ONLY difference now is we pay the full cost of the phone. Only a stupid young idiot like you who never paid a bill could calculate otherwise.

the fact you think "$40 a month" is "back in the day" when it was only 2 years ago, lets me know you are young.

 

[neph27]

i am legit fukking confused on where you are getting $20 a month for a fukking cell phone plan cheapest verizon plan is 2 gb $35/month which already kills your horrible argument by hundreds of dollars and if you have the unlimited plan like me

unlimited is $80 per month x 24 months = $1,920

iphone 8 middle cost: $1,100

$1,920 + $1,110 = $3020

before middle iphone subsidized price was $299

$1920 + $299 = $2219

you would save $800 with 2 year contract stupid mafukka where the fukk is your dumbass getting $20 a month you must be like 15 years old and see your "additional line for $20" on your parents bill or some stupid shyt , your parents still have to pay for the data you young stupid bytch

The plans are data buckets, and then based on the number of lines you have, you pay something called "line access" in for each device connected to the data buckets.

Pick a data size. 2gb for $35 is a Verizon plan, correct.

Then for each phone, you pay $20 out of contract, $40 in contact.

Two phones sharing 2gb? 35+20+20
Two phones sharing 4gb? 50+20+20
Two phones, one in contract sharing 4gb? 50+40+20
Two phones, one in contract, one financing an iPhone 7 32gb sharing 4gb? 50+40+20+27.08

I literally work as a sales rep for Verizon. This is my job. You have no idea what you are talking about and look foolish cursing and typing up numbers that you have no idea about. You do not understand the own itemization of your cell phone bill. That's fine. It's complicated! I wouldn't expect most consumers to. I'm just trying to educate you. If you don't want to listen, that's fine. I know more about this than you do.

If you go look at your own bill, you'll see the itemization I'm talking about. Single line unlimited plan? 65 (or 60 if enrolled in autopay) + 20 for line access + your phone equipment + insurance.

Multi line unlimited? 110 (100 w/autopay)20per line + phone financing + insurance.

Or you're on the new Go Unlimited plan or Beyond unlimited which dropped days ago and are structured diff but still.an extra 20 for a contract line.

Stay in your lane just a little. you can't keep doubling down on this.

 

[itsyoung!!]

The plans are data buckets, and then based on the number of lines you have, you pay something called "line access" in for each device connected to the data buckets.

Pick a data size. 2gb for $35 is a Verizon plan, correct.

Then for each phone, you pay $20 out of contract, $40 in contact.

Two phones sharing 2gb? 35+20+20
Two phones sharing 4gb? 50+20+20
Two phones, one in contract sharing 4gb? 50+40+20
Two phones, one in contract, one financing an iPhone 7 32gb sharing 4gb? 50+40+20+27.08

I literally work as a sales rep for Verizon. This is my job. You have no idea what you are talking about and look foolish cursing and typing up numbers that you have no idea about. You do not understand the own itemization of your cell phone bill. That's fine. It's complicated! I wouldn't expect most consumers to. I'm just trying to educate you. If you don't want to listen, that's fine. I know more about this than you do.

If you go look at your own bill, you'll see the itemization I'm talking about. Single line unlimited plan? 65 (or 60 if enrolled in autopay) + 20 for line access + your phone equipment + insurance.

Multi line unlimited? 110 (100 w/autopay)20per line + phone financing + insurance.

Or you're on the new Go Unlimited plan or Beyond unlimited which dropped days ago and are structured diff but still.an extra 20 for a contract line.

Stay in your lane just a little. you can't keep doubling down on this.

i worked for Verizon and at&t for years i was in Winners Circle at Verizon you sound more like a call center pup who makes 3 sales a month you also sound like a new employee and this is your first decent paying job so the job is everything in your life so you must defend it

ive sold more phones then your entire store combined

hit #1 in the west coast region (6000 sales reps) in 2013 and top 5 almost every month, fukk outta here

 

[neph27]

i worked for Verizon and at&t for years i was in Winners Circle at Verizon you sound more like a call center pup who makes 3 sales a month you also sound like a new employee and this is your first decent paying job so the job is everything in your life so you must defend it

ive sold more phones then your entire store combined

hit #1 in the west coast region (6000 sales reps) in 2013 and top 5 almost every month, fukk outta here

Then I shouldn't have to explain the basics of a job you used to work

 

[ItWasWritten]

nikkaz arguing about phone plans

 

[itsyoung!!]

Then I shouldn't have to explain the basics of a job you used to work

you are leaving out important costs in your argument to make it seem better but truth is we still have to pay those costs.

you dont get paid extra for defending this here.

 

[neph27]

you are leaving out important costs in your argument to make it seem better but truth is we still have to pay those costs.

you dont get paid extra for defending this here.

I just itemized a bill, what important costs did I leave out?