Official 2024 Hip Hop Grammys Thread

[Ol’Otis]

Tyla won?

 

[No1]

I simply disagree. Looking at her past losses, the only one where she has an argument was the self titled one that lost to Beck. But if they hadn't done their patented "curveball every few years" trick that probably would have gone to Ed Sheeren who sold more records.

You guys just aren’t fans of her music and it’s okay. But trying to justify or find a criteria for the Grammys is a flawed exercise. Notice only people who think she is over awarded are siding with your take. Just think about what you said, Beyonce sold more records than Beck in her first day and her album was just as critically acclaimed. That’s a double whammy. But you’re over here saying that if she didn’t win it would go to Ed, which is entirely the damn point. It’s a random award that goes to whoever that panel of white people wants to award and you’re taking the awkward position of being a black person trying to make sense of it.

If it’s about record sales then it should mirror the billboard awards. If it’s about critical acclaim then an album like Ed’s shouldn’t have been in the category. The argument Beyonce had was that on multiple occasions she had the perfect mix of both and lost. And to your album sales argument, why didn’t that ever apply for Eminem? Why did Frank Ocean lose to Mumford and Sons if it’s about popularity in mainstream music that year? You and others are going to extreme lengths to discredit a black person’s genuine criticism of the randomness of this award. We just watched a white woman win the award 4x over more critically acclaimed artists - we even saw her win during the era of Sasha Fierce where Beyonce was a bigger global star. I just don’t understand why you guys are planting your flag on arguing in favor of the decisions of suspect award show. To Jay Z’s point, “by your own criteria” - you’re creating your own instead of acknowledging the nonsensical nature of theirs.

Her argument was simple - she was the most critical acclaimed artist in the category when Beyonce and Lemonade lost - by far. The latter won the damn Peabody award. If this was the Oscars your argument would be laughable on its face. They literally created their secret panel SPECIFICALLY to make sure artists like her won after Prince lost to Lionel Richie.

 

[Ces1ne?]

white, blue eyed and “innocent” mediocre songwriter blowing up during a peak racist, anti-intellectual and consumerist period. That white innocence is incredibly marketable. Also, in a time when the only people on her level fame wise were other black women. If Taylor and Adele dropped the same year, Taylor wouldn’t win a single award.

Taylor Swift is the MAGA ideal. That’s why her public association with liberals piss them off so much. She’s gone “off code”.

Wtf????? U think Taylor swift is a plant for the republicans to bring down the democrats??????? I’m so confused….Please make it all make sense broham

 

[HabitualChiller]

Found that out recently and I went and listened to Joshua Tree.

This niqqa MJ got robbed something awful.

 

[FlyRy]

I dont disagree. Im not a big fan of her music either. But come on how she lose to Harry Styles. That mid shyt wasn't AOTY level either

real heads know Un Verano sin Ti deserved AOTY last year , not Beyonce

 

[No1]

They weren’t writing their songs


Taylor writes her own songs so she gets extra points within the industry, they want her positioned as more Joni Mitchell than Brittaney Spears

That’s not really why. It’s because we are in the era of “poptimism.” Before pop music wasn’t taken seriously and there was this whole argument about why is it that music primarily consumed by young women not “serious.” But there’s been an overcorrection. She never wins with this album in 2001.

 

[Deafheaven]

You guys just aren’t fans of her music and it’s okay. But trying to justify or find a criteria for the Grammys is a flawed exercise. Notice only people who think she is over awarded are siding with your take. Just think about what you said, Beyonce sold more records than Beck in her first day and her album was just as critically acclaimed. That’s a double whammy. But you’re over here saying that if she didn’t win it would go to Ed, which is entirely the damn point. It’s a random award that goes to whoever that panel of white people wants to award and you’re taking the awkward position of being a black person trying to make sense of it.

If it’s about record sales then it should mirror the billboard awards. If it’s about critical acclaim then an album like Ed’s shouldn’t have been in the category. The argument Beyonce had was that on multiple occasions she had the perfect mix of both and lost. And to your album sales argument, why didn’t that ever apply for Eminem? Why did Frank Ocean lose to Mumford and Sons if it’s about popularity in mainstream music that year? You and others are going to extreme lengths to discredit a black person’s genuine criticism of the randomness of this award. We just watched a white woman win the award 4x over more critically acclaimed artists - we even saw her win during the era of Sasha Fierce where Beyonce was a bigger global star. I just don’t understand why you guys are planting your flag on arguing in favor of the decisions of suspect award show. To Jay Z’s point, “by your own criteria” - you’re creating your own instead of acknowledging the nonsensical nature of theirs.

Her argument was simple - she was the most critical acclaimed artist in the category when Beyonce and Lemonade lost - by far. The latter won the damn Peabody award. If this was the Oscars your argument would be laughable on its face. They literally created their secret panel SPECIFICALLY to make sure artists like her won after Prince lost to Lionel Richie.

They do this every year trying to make sense of these crackers goofy awards. Macklemore won one over Kdot

Blinding lights most popular song ever not one nom for Abel

Meanwhile the white girl next door ideal winning aoty off her most middest of shyt

 

[Ces1ne?]

They do this every year trying to make sense of these crackers goofy awards. Macklemore won one over Kdot

Blinding lights most popular song ever not one nom for Abel

Meanwhile the white girl next door ideal winning aoty off her most middest of shyt

I dap u on it bc u speak facts but why are u acting like this is a ‘new” thing?????? This has been the music world for over 15+ years
Edit for +25 years

 

[tremonthustler1]

Grammys have been an unserious institution IDK why anyone cares unless you are the artist.


Its zero chance Taylor swift has had the best musical offering for a year once, let alone however many times they want to prop up her shytty shallow music



In 2020 the weeknd had one of the biggest albums in history and got zero noms. Idk how yall do this every year like this shyt fr lol

That was discussed in this thread. That wasn't about music.

from a Swift standpoint though, her shyt is always critically acclaimed though

 

[Deafheaven]

I dap u on it bc u speak facts but why are u acting like this is a ‘new” thing?????? This has been the music world for over 15+ years

How am I acting like its new, by bringing up shyt that happened in the past

 

[Reptile]

I didn’t even hear bro album, had ZERO interest in hearing that shyt. Only downloaded the song w Future for obvious reasons

Kai Cent is a c00n ass lil nikka

 

[Deafheaven]

That was discussed in this thread. That wasn't about music.

from a Swift standpoint though, her shyt is always critically acclaimed though

I know it wasnt about music, so it diminishes the integrity of that whole years show completely.

 

[Ziggiy]

Final rap facts from tonight

-Killer Mike breaks Nas record in becoming the oldest rapper to win Best Rap Album

-Michael winning Best Rap Album marks only the second time an uncertified album has won Best Rap Album, and the first time an uncertified album has won against multiple certified albums

-Michael winning Best Rap Album marks the first time a Rap album has won that debuted outside the top 20 on billboard

-This marks the fourth time Drake has lost Best Rap Album to an album that has sold way less (previous losses include Macklemore & Ryan Lewis beating out Nothing Was The Same, Kendrick Lamar beating out If Your Reading This Its Too Late, and Chance The Rapper beating out Views)

-Michael winning is the 5th time a Southern rap act has won Best Rap Album and only the second time for a southern solo artist (the first was Ludacris in 2007) Killer Mike is also the second member of the Dungeon Family to win Best Rap Album after Outkast did it twice previously.

-Killer Mike winning Best Rap Performance, Best Rap Song, and Best Rap Album is the first sweep in the rap category since Kendrick Lamar swept all 4 categories in 2018.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Kai Cenat basically summing up Gen Z and up — embarrassingly ignorant and proud of it. I wouldn’t expect a 22 year old from NY to know who Killer Mike is, but he’s also supposedly living in Atlanta, and at the very least you’d think he’d be familiar with Run These Jewels with how much of a cult following they have.

But I’m glad that album won. It was definitely a top album last year and if you weren’t having Nas win it, Killer Mike definitely deserved it. I don’t fukk with any of that Run These Jewels garbage with those awful El-P beats, but the production of ‘Michael’ was nice from top to bottom along with the content, and it was more a return to Grind Time Killer Mike instead of avant-garde “white revolutionary music” Killer Mike. None of the albums Kai Cenat mentioned were worthy of b winning album of the year. ‘Utopia’ was Travis Scott’s worst album easily, ‘FATD’ was a bottom tier Drake album that was only saved by J Cole and the Scary Hours 3 bonus tracks later on, and Metro’s album simply wasn’t better the ‘Michael’.

 

[Big Boss]

Bey didn't release an album this yr so she wasn't nominated

And it's bigger than Bey

Taylor has won 4 AOTYs in the last 15 years or so. A Black Woman hasn't won in 25 years. Let that sink in

Good.

Stop going to these awards shows