Official 2020 Democratic Primary Debate Thread

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He wouldn't run against Cruz. The other Senate seat in Texas is up for election (John Cornyn). He's arguably just as or a bigger piece of shyt than Ted Cruz too. Beto would most likely stomp him in an election.
:mjlol: that p*ssy Beto spent his US Senate run campaigning on his ability to work with Cornyn
 

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This whole racial wealth gap shyt in regards to student loan debt is retarded

Rich kids don’t have student loan debt :stopitslime: And if they do it’s an amount they can wipe away with a pen . That loan debt ain’t hindering them

nikkas got white folk on their mind so much they’re not thinking straight

Both Warrens and Bernie’s plan doesn’t target only black peoples debt ..Everyone shyt is cancelled. White ,Black,Indian.It don’t matter.What the hell are y’all even arguing about :stopitslime:


vast majority of people in going to college are white, so yes by definition this is mostly helping white people by freeing their college debt. You dont fix the wealth gap by bailing out those who already have the most wealth, yall nikkas need to do some research honestly.


Do you even know where the fast majority of black folk work in the economy? what sectors affect us the most? :jbhmm:
 

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:comeon: they're not but do you not understand even if we do both white Americans will still have a step ahaed. :martin:it's not rocket science it's called gestational wealth and we have nun. Meanwhile their in a surplus.


Yeah, I think this gentrification bubble popping is one of the last chances of weakening the white middle/upper middle class and if loans are forgiven it will just make their hold and influence stronger. This in turn will further raise the cost of living for everyone, especially the poor.
 

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David Axelrod and Borger on CNN basically saying the Dems can’t win if they’re pushing M4All. Axelrod saying Bernie was at the White House with the Obama team trying to pass the ACA and knows he can’t pass his plan

Van Jones says well the rationale is that Trump has been so far right, been rewarded with going after his crazy ideas... progressives are asking why can’t we be audacious ? And that will help get non voters to turn out if they’re voting for something to electrify their lives.
 

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I had her at 3 for a reason. She had more sensible and realistic shyt than mostly everyone up there. Warren like Trump will fight for her shyt and the people will force her on you.

Williamson had the best Black package and obvious the best anti white supremacy package. But she got no foreign relations experience like Trump. She just got a hell of a battle getting the nation to see what she says and I think should happen.

Warren to me is the best candidate but the party will go to the choice of the establishment and I expect Biden to win

I agree...I'll probably vote Warren in the primary, but if I had to put money on it I'd still give odds to Biden at this point. The rest of the vote will be pretty split.

That said, Trump needs to go regardless so I'm calling out anybody talking that "If x doesn't win the primary I'm staying home" bullshyt. :camby:
 

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:mjlol: at dudes in here military strategizing like nuclear war is some schoolyard fight

The whole point of taking the first strike off the table is reducing the anxiety and fears of nations that aren't American, and build towards a more peaceful world. Imagine being North Korea or Gaddafi's Libya or Iran right now. America basically has a loaded gun pointed in the faces of whoever it chooses to be the enemy of the hour. That's not a real peace, that's a forced stalemate. Nuclear disarmament (word to Bullock :mjlol:) will never happen with an American first strike on the table. Liz is absolutely right on this.


Its not just America that moves like this . Go talk that shyt to a general in India about taking first strike off the table and he’d laugh at you.The only reason India and Pakistan are not throwing hands right now is because of the threat of nukes .

China and India got tension but they don’t do shyt because they both got them thangs.

If India didn’t have the threat of nukes China would be bullying them just like they damn near everyone else in the region

That shyt is a deterrent and you don’t take that off the table at all. It’s some rainbows and sunshine shyt to think anything else .

That’s a weakness and Warren would get ate up in a national security debate if she said some shyt like that
 
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vast majority of people in going to college are white, so yes by definition this is mostly helping white people by freeing their college debt. You dont fix the wealth gap by bailing out those who already have the most wealth, yall nikkas need to do some research honestly.


Do you even know where the fast majority of black folk work in the economy? what sectors affect us the most? :jbhmm:
I don't get why these dudes are challenging you. Common knowledge is whites have been heavily impacted by the student debt by a massive number. Pointing to percent means nothing. This is the most dyer issue I've heard from whites around my age
 

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Van Jones says well the rationale is that Trump has been so far right, been rewarded with going after his crazy ideas... progressives are asking why can’t we be audacious ?

To be honest this is largely because progressive/young voters don't vote enough. Situation won't change as long as older white voters outvote everybody else.
 

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thecoli's overall lack of being able to understand the big picture really saddens me.

https://studentloanhero.com/featured/study-student-loans-weigh-heaviest-black-hispanic/



Being able to put all of these students of color into the professional workforce without tearing away any hope of building any kind of wealth will have a long term positive impact for people of color.

I think the problem is I'm looking at this from an even bigger picture perspective than you are. I don't mean that as a diss.

So I understand all the info there, yes black people are more likely to borrow and default. Yes canceling debt will benefit black people.

Equally canceling the debt increases the buying power of white America more because they simply have more total debt. Now as the economy adjusts, the money the black families save in debt payments is worth less as all costs rise due to everyone having more money. Often white America can survive with student loan payments and own homes but now have additional money to invest or purchase investment properties, where black people are now able to afford rent or finally afford a home. Sure technically everyone benefits, but it's like giving a universal 10% tax break. People with larger incomes save more, which increases their overall worth at a faster rate.

Not that it's feasible, but leaving student debt alone and making 2 year college free for black people (as a wild example) would actually have a bigger impact imo than just broadly canceling student loan debt for all.
 

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thecoli's overall lack of being able to understand the big picture really saddens me.

https://studentloanhero.com/featured/study-student-loans-weigh-heaviest-black-hispanic/



Being able to put all of these students of color into the professional workforce without tearing away any hope of building any kind of wealth will have a long term positive impact for people of color.
a lot of these posters are out of touch. You can tell they haven't been around the mid to late 20's crowd, even early 30's crowd of Black folks that are in no position to set themselves up for the future with a house because they are crippled with student loan debt. But hey, some whites are going to benefit so lets just forget about it.
 

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Warren styled on nikkas like her name was Furious per usual.

Bernie came out the gate hot with his wildcat offense but after halftime when the defense came out in the reparations formation Bernie lost a step and never recovered.

Marianne continues to win new fans and Anderson interviewing her now sucking up.

Bootyjudge had a hot line or two. Beto didn’t flop like last time.

Everybody else needs to drop out.
 

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David Axelrod and Borger on CNN basically saying the Dems can’t win if they’re pushing M4All. Axelrod saying Bernie was at the White House with the Obama team trying to pass the ACA and knows he can’t pass his plan

Van Jones says well the rationale is that Trump has been so far right, been rewarded with going after his crazy ideas... progressives are asking why can’t we be audacious ? And that will help get non voters to turn out if they’re voting for something to electrify their lives.
Bold ideas excite people. Democratic voters need to be electrified to come out to the polls, they're not like Republicans who vote consistently no matter what.
 

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Warren styled on nikkas like her name was Furious per usual.

Bernie came out the gate hot with his wildcat offense but after halftime when the defense came out in the reparations formation Bernie lost a step and never recovered.

Marianne continues to win new fans and Anderson interviewing her now sucking up.

Bootyjudge had a hot line or two. Beto didn’t flop like last time.

Everybody else needs to drop out.
What did Warren say about reparations?
 
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