Official 007: NO TIME TO DIE Thread

[23Barrettcity]

Yeh I hear you. Disagree with the sentiment but I hear it. I think they assume it’s arrogance because they disagree with the creative choices. And I’m sorry, but a lot of that ghostbusters shyt stemmed from grown men not liking women playing with their toys. Were there some who objected for actually mature and valid reasons? Yes. But those voices are drowned out by racists and petulant children. I have no sympathy for them. Never will

And the same goes for a lot of bond fans. A lot of them on Twitter and other places don’t want the series to progress. They threw fits when word cane down phoebe was adding to the script. They take issue with the term “Bond girl” being phased out. Or even him being in service to a woman or a black person. So guys like that make it harder to hear someone who has legitimate complaints. Even this rumored story beat? The loudest people complaining are taking issue with it being a black woman.

Ehh your going to say that it’ was all incels ??? I’m a person who reads Gb message boards and looks at websites they didn’t want a male reboot either . They wanted at the least closure of the og cast while they was alive especially with Murray being the only hold out for years . And if your going to try and ignore a good portion of the fan base your going to have to make a good movie which is why casino royale works and 21 jump street as opposed to the ghostbusters

 

[23Barrettcity]

Yeh I hear you. Disagree with the sentiment but I hear it. I think they assume it’s arrogance because they disagree with the creative choices. And I’m sorry, but a lot of that ghostbusters shyt stemmed from grown men not liking women playing with their toys. Were there some who objected for actually mature and valid reasons? Yes. But those voices are drowned out by racists and petulant children. I have no sympathy for them. Never will

And the same goes for a lot of bond fans. A lot of them on Twitter and other places don’t want the series to progress. They threw fits when word cane down phoebe was adding to the script. They take issue with the term “Bond girl” being phased out. Or even him being in service to a woman or a black person. So guys like that make it harder to hear someone who has legitimate complaints. Even this rumored story beat? The loudest people complaining are taking issue with it being a black woman.

Ehh your going to say that it’ was all incels ??? I’m a person who reads Gb message boards and looks at websites they didn’t want a male reboot either . They wanted at the least closure of the og cast while they was alive especially with Murray being the only hold out for years . And if your going to try and ignore a good portion of the fan base your going to have to make a good movie which is why casino royale works and 21 jump street as opposed to the ghostbusters

 

[MartyMcFly]

Ehh your going to say that it’ was all incels ??? I’m a person who reads Gb message boards and looks at websites they didn’t want a male reboot either . They wanted at the least closure of the og cast while they was alive especially with Murray being the only hold out for years . And if your going to try and ignore a good portion of the fan base your going to have to make a good movie which is why casino royale works and 21 jump street as opposed to the ghostbusters

No I didn’t say it was all. I said those were the loudest ones. And the loudest ones are the people who get the attention and rightly or wrongly, determine what the arguments are focused on and set the terms for the debate. So anyone on a forum or a fan who didn’t feel that way is unfairly lumped in.

And while we’re talking casino royale, if they listened to the fans that movie would’ve never been made. The fans weren’t asking for Brosnan to be replaced. The fans weren’t asking for a grittier tone. The fans weren’t asking for a reboot. And they definitely weren’t asking for Daniel Craig, who was verbally tarred and feathered when he took the role. Was called too ugly for the role and too blonde. But EON kept their heads down and did the work. And when they did speak out, it was against the loudest people. Just like Star Wars and just like ghostbusters.

So when these producers or creators are responding in the media, they’re responding to the ignorant people. No reason to be offended by it if you’re not one of those people. Like I said, it’s not fair, but the bad apples set the rules of engagement and often ruin the whole bunch

 

[jwinfield]

And if your going to try and ignore a good portion of the fan base your going to have to make a good movie which is why casino royale works and 21 jump street as opposed to the ghostbusters

https://people.com/

Craig got shyt on heavily when he was casted.

 

[MartyMcFly]

https://people.com/

Craig got shyt on heavily when he was casted.

And they ignored those calls. They took a beating in the press for it. And here we are

 

[23Barrettcity]

https://people.com/

Craig got shyt on heavily when he was casted.

And they ignored those calls. They took a beating in the press for it. And here we are

I know he was heavily shyt on . I said in my post you have to do a good movie in order for that change to work . I loved Brosnan and was disappointed in the change If casino royale sucks or tanks then it’s a different story on Craig . Ghost busters pissed off everyone and was mediocre to bad. People are complaining about the kid casting for GB2020 but It is getting some leeway due to reitmans involvement and the potential involvement of the ogs and being a continuation

 

[MartyMcFly]

I know he was heavily shyt on . I said in my post you have to do a good movie in order for that change to work . I loved Brosnan and was disappointed in the change If casino royale sucks or tanks then it’s a different story on Craig . Ghost busters pissed off everyone and was mediocre to bad. People are complaining about the kid casting for GB2020 but It is getting some leeway due to reitmans involvement and the potential involvement of the ogs and being a continuation

Didn’t piss off everyone but I know the internet works in generalities rather than specifics.

The main point is this: yes, there were people who had legitimate issues with the conception. I won’t speak against that and their feelings. They’re entitled to them. But they were also ignorant people who were much louder and much more aggressive about their ignorance. So that’s where the conversation starts and it drowns everything out. It’s unfair but that’s everything in life. And as a bond fan, I know there are still those who don’t like Craig and still have those same complaints. But I’ve also seen a lot of racism and misogyny come out of this fan base since 2012 when we got a black moneypenny.

I’m not going to paint all of fandom with a broad stroke because I wouldn’t want to be included in all that bullshyt. But to ignore it and act as if it doesn’t exist or act as if every studio needs to bow to those people and give them what they want? Nah I can’t do it. And I don’t think any studio should. You do what you believe in. If the fans don’t like it okay they don’t like it. But stick to your convictions.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Even though I like the Craig Bond films, I still feel that Bond worked best during the Cold War era.

 

[obarth]

Y'all in here talking about bullshyt meanwhile I'm over here fiending for that full Bond theme
Finna have a bad Trini chick wine pon me to that during a bashment this summer

 

[Lefty Gunz]

 

[eufemism]

title is lit

 

[Lootpack]

 

[MartyMcFly]

I like it. Nice double entendre and feels classic without feeling old as dirt

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

The Craig bond films are dropping on 4k in October. Can't wait to see Skyfall in 4k with that Deakins cinematography