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Serious question breh. And I dont really have a horse in this race. Why do you have it out for this company so much? I dont understand.
Valid question.

I don't have it out for them.

I watch it every week over NXT which I DVR, but every week they do things which make me dislike thier show. I do want itnto succeed but every week they bring out former wwe stars, or mention wwe, or take shots at this or whatever the fukk. It legit angers me.
 

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If y'all are going to continue to engage with obvious trolls, can y'all at least have them answer how bad NXT is doing if they're getting waxed in ratings by a failing new company?
 

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And that's where they'll stay. You can't lead from the back.

Without RAW hitting on all cylinders ratings will be lower across the board for all other brands and promotions.

All roads to any boom go through Monday Nights.

You gotta stack the deck on RAW.

WWE missed a huge opportunity with the new TV deals.
 

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If y'all are going to continue to engage with obvious trolls, can y'all at least have them answer how bad NXT is doing if they're getting waxed in ratings by a failing new company?
NXT has maybe lost 200,000 viewers in this span. That is a loss for a sporting event or something else on TV.

AEW has lost a third of its viewership.

Pleaae guys fukking stop with its new, expectations were low.

They need to change shyt and quick. They are stuck between catering to marks and gaining new viewers. Problem is, the marks are a million viewers the other half million viewers were casuals who tuned out completely in the last month. I legit thought they would never be under a million ever, real talk. This shyt is catastrophic.

Can someone really discuss this shyt with me instead of having feelings hurt? Im using logic and facts.
 

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NXT has maybe lost 200,000 viewers in this span. That is a loss for a sporting event or something else on TV.

AEW has lost a third of its viewership.

Pleaae guys fukking stop with its new, expectations were low.

They need to change shyt and quick. They are stuck between catering to marks and gaining new viewers. Problem is, the marks are a million viewers the other half million viewers were casuals who tuned out completely in the last month. I legit thought they would never be under a million ever, real talk. This shyt is catastrophic.

Can someone really discuss this shyt with me instead of having feelings hurt? Im using logic and facts.
aew marks are too emotional to have logistical & objective conversations with
 

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NXT has maybe lost 200,000 viewers in this span. That is a loss for a sporting event or something else on TV.

AEW has lost a third of its viewership.

Pleaae guys fukking stop with its new, expectations were low.

They need to change shyt and quick. They are stuck between catering to marks and gaining new viewers. Problem is, the marks are a million viewers the other half million viewers were casuals who tuned out completely in the last month. I legit thought they would never be under a million ever, real talk. This shyt is catastrophic.

Can someone really discuss this shyt with me instead of having feelings hurt? Im using logic and facts.

Yeah, I made no excuses. Imma just need you to wonder why NXT is somehow doing worse.
 

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NXT has maybe lost 200,000 viewers in this span. That is a loss for a sporting event or something else on TV.

AEW has lost a third of its viewership.

Pleaae guys fukking stop with its new, expectations were low.

They need to change shyt and quick. They are stuck between catering to marks and gaining new viewers. Problem is, the marks are a million viewers the other half million viewers were casuals who tuned out completely in the last month. I legit thought they would never be under a million ever, real talk. This shyt is catastrophic.

Can someone really discuss this shyt with me instead of having feelings hurt? Im using logic and facts.


Pure facts...lose 500,000k viewers in 3 weeks brehs

But but the world series!!! But but the nba!!

But but its a new company!
 

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Spin this however you want, TNA was consistently above a million for years even with sports.

WCW never hit this low.

ECW on TNN did better.

This is like panic mode time.

That was an entirely different time, you know before people had streaming and yoututbe clips to look at.. Wrestling is not well received to the masses right now. its only being watch by the hardcore fans
 

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Calling AEW’s numbers a disaster at this point is a reach. A lot of people predicted their initial numbers would be significantly lower than they are. They could easily have done 400-600 originally. If they drop hugely on an ongoing basis then it’s a big concern. At the moment they are way ahead of where most projected.

Normally people framing it like that have agendas. I’m just a wrestling fan so I don’t have any loyalty to 1 particular company so I can give them props when they do shyt good and critique when they do shyt wrong.

I do think as I mentioned they shot themselves in the foot a bit on that first episode by not making it feel episodic in the sense people felt they had to tune in next week. I think by not doing that they lost viewers. I think the first show could have been a lot better and it wasn’t the revolution some expected.

2nd show was excellent as I mentioned and since then it’s had it’s moments. Really this is a long term project, no matter what they do they can’t get astronomic numbers straight away.

They can’t allow themselves to get complacent though. They should have tried to establish straight away it was must see live TV, surprises, excitement, great wrestling and promos and hyped what was coming next week which should be even iller. They tried to tell the Inner Circle story the first week at the end but it was too vague, people initially didn’t know if it was a group, the announcers could have at least posed that question on air to get people intrigued.

This is why when I mentioned it would have been ill if possible to bring Bischoff in right after he was fired. Some people shytted on the idea but there’s a philosophy behind it. Ironically controversy creates crash, and ratings. I guarantee if Bischoff had showed up that show and they teased something big the next week like him bringing somebody else in both sets of ratings would be significantly higher. I reiterate it doesn’t have to be built around him or long term but doing these things for buzz well would get those ratings up, which then can draw people into their product as a whole and get them invested.

There’s things on the shows I don’t fukk with yet, I’m not keen on the women’s division in AEW yet and I’m not feeling The Dark Order it Best Friend ish. Other ish too, some of it can come across as confusing unless you know the backstory’s. Would be good to educate the fan base who these people are, I have no idea what The Dark Order are or why they are in masks or anything, it’s just some odd confusing shyt to me, I can’t be invested in something I don’t understand at all.

AEW are doing some things really well and other things not so good. Overall they’ve really injected something exciting into the business. For their own growth though they need to expand and grow what they are doing. Getting CM Punk would be a nice get, the name value guys along with up and comers would work well. Don’t even need loads but people who could have an impact, Punk would be a good get as it would get people talking and attention. He’s worth paying for and creating a compelling story and feuds for him. Make it edgy and some ill shyt.

I’ll commend them on the way they are going to use The Rock and Roll Express too, that’s a class move. Like that. Adds prestige to the tag belts straight away. Nicely done.

What I’d like to see is some more great talent, big names and under-utilised ones. More dope characters, more TV vignettes and storylines. The audience need to get invested in who these people are. Let’s take Kenny, he has charisma and a great story, but a lot of casuals dong know him. Why not tell his story more?

I like how they don’t start the shyt using cliched conventional methods but there’s nothing wrong with good promos too. YouTube is great and a useful tool but they be televised too.

They have good wrestling but they lack characters and story’s, it’s new but the sooner that can be built the better. They’ve done a good job with Inner Circle vs The Elite, I’m already enjoying Inner Circle and I like how Jericho doesn’t have to wrestle very week and is kept special.

It’s early days so I give them leeway but in wrestling story’s and characters are very important. It makes TVs great in ring work so much better when there’s purpose behind it.

It’s going to be an interesting journey, at the moment there’s nothing to worry about but they should never get complacent. Always want to look to constantly grow.
 
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NXT has maybe lost 200,000 viewers in this span. That is a loss for a sporting event or something else on TV.

AEW has lost a third of its viewership.

Pleaae guys fukking stop with its new, expectations were low.

They need to change shyt and quick. They are stuck between catering to marks and gaining new viewers. Problem is, the marks are a million viewers the other half million viewers were casuals who tuned out completely in the last month. I legit thought they would never be under a million ever, real talk. This shyt is catastrophic.

Can someone really discuss this shyt with me instead of having feelings hurt? Im using logic and facts.
But NXT has consistently done worse from a well known multi billion dollar company. With more stars.
 

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Calling AEW’s numbers a disaster at this point is a reach. A lot of people predicted their initial numbers would be significantly lower than they are. They could easily have done 400-600 originally. If they drop hugely on an ongoing basis then it’s a big concern. At the moment they are way ahead of where most projected.

Normally people framing it like that have agendas. I’m just a wrestling fan so I don’t have any loyalty to 1 particular company so I can give them props when they do shyt good and critique when they do shyt wrong.

I do think as I mentioned they shot themselves in the foot a bit on that first episode by not making it feel episodic in the sense people felt they had to tune in next week. I think by not doing that they lost viewers. I think the first show could have been a lot better and it wasn’t the revolution some expected.

2nd show was excellent as I mentioned and since then it’s had it’s moments. Really this is a long term project, no matter what they do they can’t get astronomic numbers straight away.

They can’t allow themselves to get complacent though. They should have tried to establish straight away it was must see live TV, surprises, excitement, great wrestling and promos and hyped what was coming next week which should be even iller. They tried to tell the Inner Circle story the first week at the end but it was to vague, people initially didn’t know if it was a group, the announcers could have at least posed that question on air to get people intrigued.

This is why when I mentioned it would have been ill if possible to bring Bischoff in right after he was fired. Some people shytted on the idea but there’s a philosophy behind it. Ironically controversy creates crash, and ratings. I guarantee if Bischoff had showed up that show and they teased something big the next week like him bringing somebody else in both sets of ratings would be significantly higher. I reiterate it doesn’t have to be built around him or long term but doing these things for buzz well would get those ratings up, which then can draw people into their product as a whole and get them invested.

There’s things on the shows I don’t fukk with yet, I’m not keen on the women’s division in AEW yet and I’m not feeling The Dark Order it Best Friend ish. Other ish too, some of it can come across as confusing unless you know the backstory’s. Would be good to educate the fan base who these people are, I have no idea what The Dark Order are or why they are in masks or anything, it’s just some odd confusing shyt to me, I can’t be invested in something I don’t understand at all.

AEW are doing some things really well and other things not so good. Overall they’ve really injected something exciting into the business. For their own growth though they need to expand and grow what they are doing. Getting CM Punk would be a nice get, the name value guys along with up and comers would work well. Don’t even need loads but people who could have an impact, Punk would be a good get as it would get people talking and attention. He’s worth paying for and creating a compelling story and feuds for him. Make it edgy and some ill shyt.

I’ll commend them on the way they are going to use The Rock and Roll Express too, that’s a class move. Like that. Adds prestige to the tag belts straight away. Nicely done.

What I’d like to see is some more great talent, big names and under-utilised ones. More dope characters, more TV vignettes and storylines. The audience need to get invested in who these people are. Let’s take Kenny, he has charisma and a great story, but a lot of casuals dong know him. Why not tell his story more?

I like how they don’t start the shyt using cliched conventional methods but there’s nothing wrong with good promos too. YouTube is great and a useful tool but they be televised too.

They have good wrestling but they lack characters and story’s, it’s new but the sooner that can be built the better. They’ve done a good job with Inner Circle vs The Elite, I’m already enjoying Inner Circle and I like how Jericho doesn’t have to wrestle very week and is kept special.

It’s early days so I give them leeway but in wrestling story’s and characters are very important. It makes TVs great in ring work so much better when there’s purpose behind it.

It’s going to be an interesting journey, at the moment there’s nothing to worry about but they should never get complacent. Always want to look to constantly grow.

This is what actual constructive criticism looks like.
 
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