Now that JOKER has reached $1 billion, how does Disney look spending $300mil per film?

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Serious question. Is there any other villain that you could make a movie about that would even come close to this much money? Or is this a 1 off because the Joker is uniquely situated in pop culture and the Joker as an icon is so ambiguous you can take risks and not piss off a sizeable portion of the fan base the way Snyder did.

Doom if they build him up correctly.
 

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Lets just be happy Dc created a model they can follow for their movies going forward.

Do they really though? As much as WB is going to want to try and cook up a winning formula up outta this, I don't think it's there.

Initially it was no franchises, just a one off...now people scrambling to figure out how this can work with the Batman/DCEU reboot or carry the story line further, which sounds like a huge mistake. Then you got people suggesting what character they should 'black label' next, let's get a dark rated R take on Riddler, Lex Luthor with Walter White, Ice Man, Penguin ect.



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I think it's more likely that this is a novelty than a model for repeated success.
 

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Marvel needs to transition it's films into genre films
 
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nah, blade did it first, was replicated with logan and deadpool

im just saying THERE iz a market for adult themed r rated comic films, donta all need to be kids movies

Disney has repeatedly said they're gonna keep Deadpool with an R rating which will set precedent for how they handle Marvel content with more adult themes. They got Hulu, Fox and other distributors that have released rated R movies under their umbrella over the years.
 

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Do they really though? As much as WB is going to want to try and cook up a winning formula up outta this, I don't think it's there.

Initially it was no franchises, just a one off...now people scrambling to figure out how this can work with the Batman/DCEU reboot or carry the story line further, which sounds like a huge mistake. Then you got people suggesting what character they should 'black label' next, let's get a dark rated R take on Riddler, Lex Luthor with Walter White, Ice Man, Penguin ect.



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I think it's more likely that this is a novelty than a model for repeated success.

This is their chance to do one off self contained stories like All Star Superman, Superman Red Son. IMO
 
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nah thats false those avengers movies anywhere from 300-500 million budget plus marketing, they need to be blockbusters to turn a profit

joker doing that with very little budget and being creative

a lot of villains, esbecially in batman universe, id like to see a darkseid movie tho

What’s false? I specifically said gross. All those movies grossed a billion +. You’re getting into profitability. And those movies all turned a size able profit and that’s not even considering merchandising.

and again it’s great the Joker did this. But I Don’t know if this kind of movie is repeatable withal a lesser known villain.
 

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nah, blade did it first, was replicated with logan and deadpool

im just saying THERE iz a market for adult themed r rated comic films, donta all need to be kids movies
You forget that Disney is making a killing on merchandise from those PG-13 movies.

No one is walking around with Joker branded depression notebooks.
 
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The only thing OP is right about is Joker's budget was $55M which means the profit margin is going to be insane and it will likely turn a bigger profit than some other blockbuster movies that have reached a billion.

But I haven't looked into exactly what the profit margin on Joker will be compared to those films so it's a moot point.. Disney isn't doing rated R and they don't have to do rated R so don't expect changes from them.

Anyone thinking that Disney is going to do Blade rated R again.. I really don't see it, sadly. But we'll see.
 
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