Nolan Batman trilogy or Captain America? Which one is better?

[BaldingSoHard]

TDKR was almost as bad as TDK was good.

Ultimately the last Batman film was utter crap which sunk the trilogy, imo.

Cap movies, while not as good as BB and TDK, didn't have a complete shytfest for 1/3 of the trilogy.

So I gotta go with Cap.

 

[Northern Son]

Nolan trilogy is the high water mark of comic book films.

 

[Tetsuo]

Cap. Nolan's trilogy is fine the first time through, but puts me to sleep on repeat viewings.

 

[Draje]

The Harvey Dent heel turn is the most out of nowhere unexplained bullshyt ever...and I say that as someone that LOVES TDK. It's the one major flaw of that movie. Dent goes from Mr Squeeky clean to a fukking serial killer in the blink of the eye. We needed to see more hints of him being mentally unstable. Actually the Two Face origin in Batman: The Animated series would have been perfect.

The fukk? One of Joker's biggest arguments is that all it takes is one bad day to break them completely. That everyone's morals has a breaking point.

Harvey was a great guy but the reason he worked so well is because worked within the confines of the law but understanding they needed to be bent. He looked incorruptible.

But listening to the women you've decided to propose to tell you that she loves you and wants to marry you, seconds before she's killed could break you. Mix that with burns so severe that simply being conscious is akin to the worst possible torture. Dude's fukking skull was showing so he'd probably be in a medically induced coma. Despite that, he's refusing any painmedicine and then found out the people he warned Gordon (One of the few people he thought he could trust) about were the ones who kidnapped his now dead wife?

And to Harvey, he's not a serial killer. Dude thinks it's completely out of his control. He flips a coin and lets fate decide just like he felt fate decided for him.

It worked.

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

And to Harvey, he's not a serial killer. Dude thinks it's completely out of his control. He flips a coin and lets fate decide just like he felt fate decided for him.

It worked.

It was perfect, it showed how killers gradually get worse and worse. He went from going after criminals to crooked cops to Gordon/Gordon's kid/Batman.

So you literally go
to to

But in his mind it's all rational. Once he's a killer he wants to convince Gordon/Batman that what happened to him could happen to them (just like the Joker did to Harvey). If he would've popped the kid both Batman and Gordon would've murdered him, I'm 100% convinced of this.

Everyone has a breaking point.

 

[MartyMcFly]

It was perfect, it showed how killers gradually get worse and worse. He went from going after criminals to crooked cops to Gordon/Gordon's kid/Batman.

So you literally go
to to

But in his mind it's all rational. Once he's a killer he wants to convince Gordon/Batman that what happened to him could happen to them (just like the Joker did to Harvey). If he would've popped the kid both Batman and Gordon would've murdered him, I'm 100% convinced of this.

Everyone has a breaking point.

The fukk? One of Joker's biggest arguments is that all it takes is one bad day to break them completely. That everyone's morals has a breaking point.

Harvey was a great guy but the reason he worked so well is because worked within the confines of the law but understanding they needed to be bent. He looked incorruptible.

But listening to the women you've decided to propose to tell you that she loves you and wants to marry you, seconds before she's killed could break you. Mix that with burns so severe that simply being conscious is akin to the worst possible torture. Dude's fukking skull was showing so he'd probably be in a medically induced coma. Despite that, he's refusing any painmedicine and then found out the people he warned Gordon (One of the few people he thought he could trust) about were the ones who kidnapped his now dead wife?

And to Harvey, he's not a serial killer. Dude thinks it's completely out of his control. He flips a coin and lets fate decide just like he felt fate decided for him.

It worked.

And it all gets back to the jokers point in the killing joke: one bad day can set someone "good" on a bad path.

Also according to Harvey it wasn't about good and bad. It was about justice. He clearly showed in at least two scenes how far he was willing to go in the name of justice

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Civil War by itself was enough for me to give this to Cap.

Winter Soldier was also clearly better than 2 of the 3 Bats movies. I'd have to wack them again to decide if it's better than TDK.

I am like the one person that loved First Avenger, but it was better than 2/3 of the Bats series too.

The fighting in Batman was too pedestrian for Batman. I felt like I wasn't seeing the "real" Batman.

The opposite is true of Cap. Cap and Stark seem like they jumped out of the comic books onto the screen. In fact I never cared much for either until the movies.

So for Cap they took a lame character and brought him to life. For Bats they have literally the best comic character ever and they just kind of barely held on - except TDK.. but that was largely Joker.

Cap. Definite.

 

[Still FloW]

Story wise: Nolans trilogy EASILY..

but by gawwwd, the action was beyond ass..

which the Cap trilogy excels with.. GREAT ACTION SCENES..

now if it was Batfleck in that trilogy, there would be ZERO competition.. lets hope DC gets Batfleck his own dope trilogy, imagine a trilogy full of warehouse type scenes

 

[Chef]

Pretty tough choice for me. The first Capt movie wasn't bad nor mediocre but didn't grab me. Winter Soldier and Civil War though.
The issue with TDKR is its the weakest of the three and its following up TDK which is a super high bar to pass which did it no favor.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

The cap films literally do 1 ASPECT of filmmaking better than Nolan's batman films and that is action. Everything else, Nolan's batman films have them beat. And can we please stop saying TDKR Is a terrible film? Or as bad as TDK Is good? No fukking way man. I agree they fukked some things up in TDKR but Bane was still a fukking dope ass villain for almost the entire film until his demise. The movie is still very entertaining despite its flaws.

 

[Wild self]

The cap films literally do 1 ASPECT of filmmaking better than Nolan's batman films and that is action. Everything else, Nolan's batman films have them beat. And can we please stop saying TDKR Is a terrible film? Or as bad as TDK Is good? No fukking way man. I agree they fukked some things up in TDKR but Bane was still a fukking dope ass villain for almost the entire film until his demise. The movie is still very entertaining despite its flaws.

People in here downplaying TDK and the groundbreaking elements they had on there. They forgot about the cultural impact it had.

 

[Darts]

I watch comic book movies to be entertained... and the Cap trilogy was easily the most entertaining of the two.

Cap wins.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

People in here downplaying TDK and the groundbreaking elements they had on there. They forgot about the cultural impact it had.

I've never spent one iota of time thinking about any fukking captain America movie outside of the movie itself. I remember talking about philosophy and the moral implications of tdk when it came out. that's the thing about Nolan films, his films transcend what they are and make you think and talk about life and stuff not directly related to the film itself. the cap films are really entertaining but honestly there is nothing to analyze after you're done experiencing it.

 

[Wild self]

I've never spent one iota of time thinking about any fukking captain America movie outside of the movie itself. I remember talking about philosophy and the moral implications of tdk when it came out. that's the thing about Nolan films, his films transcend what they are and make you think and talk about life and stuff not directly related to the film itself. the cap films are really entertaining but honestly there is nothing to analyze after you're done experiencing it.

Facts. TDK had all types of themes that made me like the recession, basic constitutional rights, the greater good, fear, chaos, and anything else worthwhile. For people to downplay the first 2 films of the TDK trilogy is

 

[FlyRy]

Civil War by itself was enough for me to give this to Cap.

You mean Avengers 2.5 :smugnolan: