"Nobody Has Been Able To Dominate The Industry Like Pac Did" -T.I.

[Tom]

MATW was doing Doggystyle numbers when Pac was locked up.

if that was true then the nikka would have been able to post that 1 million dollar bail himself

 

[god shamgod]

2Pac didn't dominate the industry though. 2Pac has turned into a mythical figure in recent years.

I agree.Nobody checked for tupac when he 1st dropped 2pacalypse now

He didnt dominate nothing until he died

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

if that was true then the nikka would have been able to post that 1 million dollar bail himself

Not true at all. You talk as if record sales equate significant royalty statements. What do you think Snoop made off royalties alone from Doggystyle? Not much.

 

[Scotch Hall]

I agree.Nobody checked for tupac when he 1st dropped 2pacalypse now

He didnt dominate nothing until he died

I was the only person that bought that album
album went gold b, get real

 

[Scotch Hall]

Eazy-E and Big Pun both had platinum plaques before they died. Neither is as loved as Pac is nor did they witness any significant spike in record sales when they released posthumus albums. Pac was loved because of songs that shook the soul like Keep Ya Head Up, Brenda's got a baby, Dear Mama, etc. nikkas wanted to be him and women wanted to be with him. He seemed beyond human when he was alive. nikka was fearless, he became Icon status after he got shot 5 times and left the hospital the next day. All this shyt aswell as his look and charisma is what generated interest in Pac. The music was always the key tho. I'll put AEOM up against any album of alltime as far as versatility and quality goes. Dude is simply the goat. He could do an album in 7 days that's better than the shyt it's taken Dr.Dre 13 years to make.

homie the thing is dre don't even produce his stuff, he pays people off

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

homie the thing is dre don't even produce his stuff, he pays people off

From 92-2005 anything that said Produced by Dr.Dre got ppl attention regardless.

 

[Scotch Hall]

From 92-2005 anything that said Produced by Dr.Dre got ppl attention regardless.

True I'm still a fan

 

[god shamgod]

I was the only person that bought that album
album went gold b, get real

It was released in nov 91 and went gold in april 1995

It took 4.5 years to go gold.While death certificate was released 2 weeks prior to 2pacalypse now and went platinum in 2 Months

Nobody was checkin for pac back then

 

[Scotch Hall]

It was released in nov 91 and went gold in april 1995

It took 4.5 years to go gold.While death certificate was released 2 weeks prior to 2pacalypse now and went platinum in 2 Months

Nobody was checkin for pac back then

Your comparing Ice Cube to 2Pac back in 91, of course cube is gonna go plat he just came out n.w.a a few years before that and released ammericas most wanted.

I know pac wasn't that popular back in 91, but to act like 2 people bought it back then is

 

[Tom]

I agree.Nobody checked for tupac when he 1st dropped 2pacalypse now

He didnt dominate nothing until he died

true story, outside of oakland the rest of hiphop ain't really take notice of Pac until "Strictly for my nikkas" when "I get around" and "Keep ya Head up" dropped

then 3 years after that the nikka died.


People overate his dominance IMO. He had a nice lil 12 month run where he was running with deathrow sitting on top of the world dissing everybody. But his reign was short like leprechauns b.


and to keep it 100, Hit em Up dropped in the summer of 96 (June, July something like that), only after that Pac went on a rampage and started dissing everyone.

I don't think NY was shook, its just that the nikka died before any of them could drop an album and respond to him. Lil Kim and Jay Z already had diss tracks lined up and ready for the nikka but had to take them off their records after he died. There was only a 3,4 month window of opportunity to respond after Pac dropped Hit em Up


If u pop shyt and then die before nikkas can respond it don't mean u had nikkas shook, it just means u took a huge L and nikkas kept it moving


u saw how nonchalant Nas was when Ed Lover announced Pac's death at his concert.


::: Ed lover stops show and tells the crowd that Pac died :::


Nas is like

 

[Enzo]

Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to agree with this because of his influence on the generation within and outside of the music industry.

 

[Harry B]

Pac dominated the industry for about 18 months.
But let's be honest other people like Eminem, DMX, Nelly, 50 has dominated the game harder in 18-24 months. So that doesn't make him a goat, his music makes him a goat. The difference would be that he died and gave him this martyr/myth figure.

 

[Harry B]

MATW was doing Doggystyle numbers when Pac was locked up. How can you say Death Row was dominating yet Pac was selling as much as the biggest album on Death Row before he even signed to Death Row?

It had sold a bit more than a million copies when he got out I remember him talking about how he sold faster than Biggie and Snoop Did about a million first week.
And T.I. dropped his mediocre ass album from the pen and did over 500k in these download times from the Pen. Wayne dropped 2 mediocre albums from the pen that did 8-900k.

 

[Enzo]

Pac was hanging with real G's. He was going at politicians. He was trying to open people's minds and succeeding in creating a following. He did naturally. He did it how Barack Obama did it in 2008.

Everything else has been a formula. Eminem repeatedly says this this. Nelly controlled clubs but didn't change people. 50 and X both had that grip on people but X was a crackhead and 50 is using the formula just like Em.

 

[Lavish]

I never knew 2pac dislikers' existed until I started going on forums

I always thought aside from a few racist cacs AND uncle toms that everyone and they momma saw pacs greatness

all these idiots saying pac is only great because of his death is retarded

there is alot of dead rappers and not all of them get hailed the goat... so that argument is bullshyt.

and if you under 26-28 range, you couldnt possibly know how big pac was back then. you were what 9-11 years old in 1995?

FUKK OUTTA HERE